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Here's a link to my photos. Rode by myself, ate by myself, so not many of the fella's rides but a few of the Tech Session discussions. https://photos.app.goo.gl/GANxnBUhZKdSAd4C9

These are probably my two favorite photos from the weekend:

Not in the market for a new bike anyway and too old and set in my ways. Last thing I want is a bike that I need to spend 20minutes setting it up before I ride it and a bunch of servos, stepper motors and wiring which will go wrong, eventually. Piaggio are a money making machine first, foremost, always so I totally get the Adventure thing, altough I'm a short arse and hate them. I worry about the exhausts replacing the head guards, it's going to turn ugly when it falls over, even at standstill. However if I was in the market for an Adventure bike, that would certainly appeal the Greenie looks very pretty IMHO comparing to the competition. Guareschi just kick ASS, but that's the opinion of an out of touch old man living in the past

+1 on that! Nicely done, Tom!

More -- actually, way more than needed, of course -- will follow after I get home. In meantime, did buy this from the 129 guy ... Bill

Exactly what I was implying when I said “do you think there’ll be a “v100forum” 20-30 years from now? All these screens, computer crap will have been obsolete and unobtainable. There’s a guy on YouTube sinking large amounts of money into a Ferrari 360 and he needed a engine ECM. Those run 2, he sent the bad one to a company that repairs ecm’s and they can’t fix it. The board was built by a computer and its impossible to replace anything on it. Of course Ferrari no longer supports it and new ones aren’t available. This is where the world is headed. The Rent Seeking class continues to push towards planned obsolescence. We as a race are hurtling headlong into a situation where we are becoming increasingly ignorant and when something catastrophic happens… we’ll, it’ll be back to the Stone Age. Something that I think has happened maybe more then once already. My newest ride is a 2010 Mercedes and it’s full of those devilish German Electrical Gremlins… I had a good laugh looking at their new all electric model and thinking to myself that the 4-5th owner 10 years from now will be eternally screwed instead of thinking what a great deal they got paying 15% of MSRP.

Thanks, @HRC_V4 ! That is too funny! Check my work, are there others I should add?

Mighty impressive group of bikes on top of the excellence and effort put forth by those who came . . . SpineFrame Raiders: 1996 SPOrT 1100, silver 1997 1100 Sport-i, yellow 2000 V11 Sport, silver 2001 Rosso Mandello, rosso speciale 2002 Le Mans. champagne 2003 Coppa Italia 2003 Ballabio, red LoopFrame Raiders: 1971 750 Ambassador, burgundy 1973 850 Eldorado, white CARC Raiders: 2007 Norge, molto molto rosso 2008 1200 Sport, tuxedo black&white Honorable SpineRaiders: 1993 Ducati 900 SS, arrest-me-red 2000 Moto Guzzi Quota 1100 ES, red Guests: Honda ST 1300 Yamaha TDM Kawasaki KLR BMW "The / " California 1400, black with champagne

Me neither. One reason I ask is that the gearbox input hubs differ on the V11 between the single plate and, more common, twin plate clutch. Not sure if either one is used on the 5 speed (?) IIRC, changing a V11 single plate to the aftermarket (5 speed) RAM uses the existing V11 input hub already mated for the single plate clutch (Rosso Mandello, Scura. Tenni). Changing from a single plate to a twin plate V11 clutch requires changing to the more common gearbox input hub for the twin plate clutch.

The computer repair company was able to source a good used ECM and program it for him. He stated that those are now many thousands of dollars if you can find one that works. Although it’s a ticking time bomb because eventually a capacitor/relay/resistor will fail annnnd your back getting your passport stamped at the port of entry in “ScrewedLandia” That company compared the Ferrari ECM to a BMW 7 Series ECM. That is conventionally built, large and individual components can be replaced. I just went through something similar with my dyer. It was working fine and then it’s not… I found a company Circuit Board Medics that fixes a whole slew of boards for all kinds of things. Good link to bookmark when you’ll need that service btw.

I agree with all of what you said, Mikko. Assume the gent with the Ferrari cannot locate a new ECM for any price, new, used, refurb. This is a critical part that removes total functionality from a product. Without the ECM, that 360 becomes a paperweight. I'm also willing to bet, it is a 1-time application item, not shared with any other car, and it is totally proprietary. I hate the built-in, planned obsolescence engineering they are building into so many things now. TPTB don't want anyone to own assets. They want us all to lease, have a subscription, along recurring fees into perpetuity. A vehicle which can be cheaply and easily rebuilt by the every-man doesn't fit into that plan. We now live in a throwaway society and I hate it. I find it unethical, wasteful, and insulting to the intelligence of the consumer. The only way I can push back is not buying anything new, and building a stash of "analog" parts that I know will be NLA in the near to distant future. The new Guzzis will be great bikes. I know they will. However, in 10-20 years? Good luck. The same reason I look at all the new Ducatis, TFT screens, lots of exotic electronics and complexity. All very expensive. All very fragile. All soon to be NLA, obsolete, and a motorcycle, that can no longer be used. I look at these new bikes, and all I can say is "...no thank you."

Great pics Tom. Looks like Porsche Day at the Gap. And Grom day as well the old church shot in b&w is nice!

close to original as possible for my taste. 2037, 2042, or dark with 2072. tough decision

After I gave you information earlier that very well may be incorrect I did some research, at least the little I could find that I have some confidence in. I don't like giving out bad information and the aluminum flywheel saga has haunted these pages since I've been here. In searching various parts books it shows that p/n's are consistent for Tenni, Scura, and RM for the flywheel and all the clutch parts. The fact that all the p/n's line up means the flywheels were at least interchangeable. That leaves the 'two sources of manufacture' theory. So Guzzi built the first 'batch' maybe in house, for installation on their first 'special', the lovely RM. Then at some point they presumably outsourced the next batch to cover the next 2 specials, and these are the bad ones. This seems to be what people are saying and could explain high mileage RM's with no clutch problems. So the next question would be how many "good" flywheels did they make? Enough for the entire RM run? If so then some of the first Tenni/Scura out there got a good flywheel. If not enough then there's a few RM's out there with the bad flywheel. If there's any more info out there that might wrap this story up with a definitive answer I don't know where to look. Maybe someone else can add to this.

The CARC Raiders were not to be outdone . . .

The Coppa Italia started to remind of that pretty girl at the party that kept getting herself into all the pictures . . .

OBTW, we rode today, too. Lake Chatuge; Hiawassee, Georgia. B&K

Daytona? At least that was built for a purpose. The Centauro is a bit of a mixed bag. The engine is the only thing I like about mine. The V11 is beautiful.

Yes, the OO -- who was second to the last man out -- did.

One must be careful what one asks for . . .

I was attempting to be humorous. I won't do it again:) Ciao

Here's a vid with some close-up details and some fellow gushing over it. With slightly lower bars, it might be seen as a NewGen Cafe Sport/Coppa Italia with the standard model a Novo Ballabio perhaps.

100%...Mike at MPH swapped out my clutch/flywheel on the Scura...nice not to have to worry about it grenading in the future. I've got the original in my garage if anyone wants it for an experiment of some sort...pay shipping and it's yours!

I *think* they lightened the Centauro flywheel a bit. I did a lightened flywheel assembly for The Kid many years ago, but apparently the assembly is the only one I took a picture of.

I was going to say that, the more any future model (or aftermarket body kits) looks like the MGS-01, the better!

I. Pretty sure it will but I'm not an expert on that.

On a chain drive motorcycle getting the relationship between swing arm pivot, counter shaft sprocket, and rear sprocket, right are key to getting the rear suspension to work under power. But I assume you know that. The same tricks can be applied to a reaction rod setup on a shaft drive motorcycle. You just fine tune the locations of the reaction rod ends. A little bit of energy being feed into the rear suspension may be a good thing to help deal with weight transfer. But too much is generally bad. I will be curious to see how the details of this bike, and the others that follow, will play out. I am happy Guzzi finally has a proper big block engine. Now to see what they put it in.

Luckily, the front wheels are mainly only needed to get the "tractor" lined up to start the pull. So wheels / tires off a hand cart are all you need.....

What footgoose sez. A buffing wheel, rouge, a little elbow grease, and they'll look like a pewter dollar in no time. Wipe them down one last time after installation, and they'll eventually turn golden. Fingerprints, oil, etc. will have to be looked after, or they'll get splotchy. (technical term)

Eh? I'm young and hip and down with the kids, and I second this opinion! OK that was a lie but you just can't argue with the Varano can you. Long CARC wheelbase or not, I wish I could get one on the road. Pop a Griso 8v in it and that'd be me all set.

FWIW, I deleted the comment by JethThran and flagged him as a spammer.

Believe it or not, the maximum speed limit in the whole country is 80 km/h. In Port Vila, the limit is 50 km/h and in some of the villages, even less. However, there are no radars, speed cameras, speed traps or even pursuit vehicles - but any big bike is easily recognised. The ring road is about 160 km so if there are no stops, a bit over two and a half hours if you stick to the limits. A TT? Perhaps with Stelvios or equivalent - but you'd need a lot of people to ensure the pigs and dogs stayed off the road.

also consider a clean and polish, like this one. I did mine very close to this and by hand, flitz metal polish, 3m pad, and then cloth. Took a few hours and it will return to tarnish after awhile, but once done it's easier to keep up with. If you use a buffing wheel it's even better

And the various Studio This and Studio That type outfits. Ghezzi doesn't seem to get into the full rebuild stuff much any more I think though, and it's been a while since the Alba etc. I hadn't thought about Guareschi but they might be the most active right now? Anyway, fingers crossed for interesting pretty goodies from whoever.

There is no "correct" unless you are tuning for emissions and then there's a "range". There are settings that would make you look at the possibility that there was other issues worth checking. If it's running well at +18 and is not using too much fuel, warms up nicely and responds well to the throttle then I see no reason the change it. Ciao

Unfortunately, these guys are one of a kind.... and judging on the amount of vintage motorbikes they have at any one time in the shop, I hope they keep going. I am concerned they do not have any apprentice working with there, to learn the craft "on the job". All the workers are senior citizens... And their usual turnaround is six weeks.... I have so far got a better treatment, they really like their motorcycles... I have seen more than a few beauties there... mainly BMWs.

They have some Bronze colors. They could also chrome the exhaust so it would look like the StayInTune terminals. Unfortunately, my sampling tool just takes one single point so I don't get the texture of the tint. I could give it some texture so it would look better. The black is actually the Satin Black. But sampled on 1 pixel.

I indicated "safely" for a reason. It means having the proper work environment. It means some kind of setup to work on your motorcycle. I was not specifically hinting at Guzzi special tools. Starting with the basics means (at least to me) the motorcycle lift, with appropriate stand and whatever else necessary to work in good conditions. It also means torque wrench and various set of tools which may or may not be necessary depending on what you want to do. At least for me, this is the way I work on equipment. When you say cheaper and easier, I will agree with cheaper, providing you already have a setup. I don't have anything at the moment, and just purchasing the few items required to rill two holes to install the formation instruments is proving to be an ordeal. Some of the items I wanted are back ordered, and I am yet to receive them. But most of anything, my issue is space. Taking apart requires also a bench, maybe a bench vise and so on. So easier? I would say MPH Houston has proven to be fairly cheap for what they did on the Le Mans so far, and I live 15 minutes from them. If I had not wanted to install the Formation myself, I am certain they would have drilled the two holes and tapped them for free. And MPH is not the only shop that could cater to my Guzzi here.

Someone here is going to have to take one for the team and buy one. On the upside, the exhaust now appears to replace the old spark plug/head guard.

I would guess that the bike should handle great. After all, why invest in completely new bike, engine, frame, electronics, adaptive aero, new components, ohlins-E but skimp on the rear/drive suspension? They would never do that

It’s going to be places like Ghezzi, Milliepercento etc to build what the Piagio overlords forbid.

I'm wondering if the electronic suspension model might have a variable damping capability tied to throttle position/engine torque output. So when you get on the throttle the rear shock rebound rate is increased proportionally to help lessen the jacking. Lots of scope in electronic suspension control these days. Of course chain drive sports bike jack the rear suspension on the power and are set up to do it so obviously some is required. It's a matter of proportion and control. Ciao

The title of this thread is V100 Sport Tourer, but I don't see any attach points for saddlebags. These pictures are already making me wonder what a Guareschi kit for this chassis might look like.

What a terrific group of SpineRaiders and fine human beings. The riding was fabulous, TechSessions stellar, and the camaraderie second to none. Welldone, all-y'all! I'll post a roll call later today . . .

I don't know who brought the fake oil spill, but Randy slept in Sunday, so he was last one to get it. The guy with the Honda seemed a little ruffled when he found under his ST1300 . . . Fair warning, Randy has it now and can mess with whomever he thinks will "enjoy" it the most. (Notice how docc knows precisely where an oil spill is most likely to occur under a V11. )

Last man out yesterday, beautiful day for the ride home. I want to see bike pics!

I think this is correct. The Rosso Mandello was the first V11 to have the RAM parts. The Scuras and Tennis were made later (2002 models). The problem flywheels seem to be limited to the 2002 bikes. It seems safe to leave the stock unit in a Rosso Mandello. But I would absolutely replace it in a Scura or Tenni.

Errr? No. 1100 Sport and then the V11's use a solid swingarm but the bevelbox itself is free to move on the rear wheel spindle. The CARC bikes use a reactive bridge within a solid casing that moves in relation to swingarm on what are effectively the wheel bearings within the case that support the crownwheel and pinion. With this new swingarm it just seems to be a rigid arm with a bevelbox bolted to the end but there is no tether rod to transfer the torsional forces to the frame of the vehicle meaning that as the pinion tries to climb the crownwheel it will exert an upward force on the arm. That makes the suspension unable to remain compliant and prevents it doing its job. Likewise on downchanges the tendency will be to compress the suspension and unload the rear tyre leading to tyre hop and loss of traction.

More dino burners for me. Electric? Ever see a Tesla on fire? Want to sit on one when it randomly goes hot while riding? Hot exhaust is enough for me. 😂