Lucky Phil

February 26

Long after you've forgotten the cost the quality remains.

Phil

February 26

2 hours ago, rydfly said:

So obviously holding the rotor with a screwdriver against the rotor fin and adjacent stator housing bolt head didn't work... what's the trick to keeping the engine from turning while you remove the nut off the rotor?

I need to pull the alternator to replace my leaking timing cover gasket... hopefully I haven't just cost myself $400 worth or alternator by breaking off this cooling fin?

I also tried having my wife hold the rear brake with the transmission in gear but that didn't work either (too much leverage at the crankshaft I guess?)

I quit for the night before I broke anything else out of frustration.

And I did check the service manual but step #1 of alternator removal is to remove the engine from the bike (!!!). Surely there's a way to avoid that, isn't there?!

An impact gun or the correct tool to hold the rotor. I have one as it's a Ducati Alternator and uses a Ducati tool. There's an Ebay seller in GB selling them for around $100USD delivered. Item number 125558788704

Phil

February 24

2 hours ago, LowRyter said:

Phil I have the extender on there. @Lucky Phil

The link I posted is about reworking the gearbox selector.

Phil

February 23

24 minutes ago, audiomick said:

@mikev My V35 Imola and my Breva both have the same thread on both mirrors. That is the critical point. Some manufactureres have right-hand thread on both sides, some have one right-hand and one left-hand. Screw your mirrors off and have a look, and measure the diameter. It is likely to be a fine pitch thread, I think. The mirrors on the Imola are that for certain. On the strength of what you find you should be able to tell if the mirrors from other models or suppliers will fit or not.

@Lucky Phil I'm a bit interested in this line of products. Stupidly expensive, but the mirrors are made of polished aluminium. No glass, so nothing to shatter.

https://motogadget.com/collections/spiegel-englisch

I've seen those Mick but considering the cost my rationale is that the only time the reflector breaks is if you drop/crash the bike and if that happens hard enough to break the reflector then the whole mirror is generally junk anyway.

Phil

February 23

49 minutes ago, mikev said:

the rizoma website doesnt list V11s - will mirrors for other guzzi models be compatible?

Just buy the style you want and the adaptors (see my image). Mirrors are pretty much universal. You might need the thread size which I believe is 10mm. Left hand thread one side and right the other. Pitch is 10X1.25.

February 23

13 minutes ago, LowRyter said:

frankly, that was my fear.

Could you describe accessing the "stop adjuster"?

Phil

February 23

2 minutes ago, docc said:

Just make sure it has not gotten "sloppy." Check the pinch bolt on the shaft of the gear box, the lock nuts indexing the Heim/Rose joints, and wobble at the lever pivot. The lever pivot bolt may benefit from shimming (mine has a couple of times). There is an inboard lock nut that keeps that pivot bolt from turning.

Look at the relative angles of the parallelogram and adjust as necessary to get as close to get the gearbox arm and the shift extension arm parallel.

The lever has more apparent travel between certain gears, so check that it is not fouling anything above or the Frame Side Plate (below) in each gear change, up and down.

I don't believe "overshifting" has anything to do with the shift linkage docc although always worth looking at of course. More likely the stop adjuster has come loose or it has been fiddled with at some point and has been set on the edge of "overshifting" and as time and wear accumulate it ends up outside the acceptable window of operation. The answer is to remove the side plate and check the whole shift mechanism for faults and while in there replace all the springs and adjust the stop on the bench before it damages the hard to fix internal parts like the gear dogs and/or shifter sleeves.

February 23

1 hour ago, guzzler said:

G'day mate.

What were the other sources you found if you don't mind?

I contacted Stein Dinse and it's $103 ( Australian ) to get it here.

$37 for the part and $66 in freight!

Mine looks to be chromed as a piece has chipped off it so re-chroming it may be cheaper or I could just live with it as I have since day one.

Cheers

Yes like MG cycles and most other foreign sellers you need to have a list of stuff you need and make an order to justify the shipping which has gone through the roof in the last 3 years or so.

February 23

9 hours ago, audiomick said:

Thanks for the picture of the Rizomas @Lucky Phil. I'm looking for some mirrors for the V35 Imola, and the ones in your photo might be an option now I've seen the photo.

You can buy Chinese "branded" Rizoma knock offs for about a 1/4 of the price from western re sellers and the quality "looks" fine but they suffer from things like the adjustment ball is so tight it's unusable which is a total PITA if you knock one out of adjustment. Tools required. I have them on the RE and must replace them.

February 23

22 hours ago, mikev said:

Does anyone have any recommendations on bar end weights for my 2000 v11?

I am sort of restoring it to original, and have completed getting the stock air box re-installed. Sounds nicer. Its cold here and roads are salty so haven't gotten a proper ride in yet.

Now want to rid myself of the bar end mirrors. Always bumping into the wood pile in garage. Thinking of the "standard" mirrors on MG Cycle and need some bard end weights

Any recommendations appreciated.

Congratulation on re fitting the airbox, good move. The crem de la crem of mirrors are Rizomas from my experience and congrats again upon ridding yourself of the Mickey Mouse ear mirrors. Rizomas come in various styles but I run these. Bar end weights. Standard are best.

Phil

February 23

As a general position on technical things I have little regard for "who invented it" or who came up with the original concept or design. My admiration goes to those who perfected or refined the original design or concept into something outstanding. Thats where the real effort, skill and genius is. Some of course manage to do both but who the hell give a damn about the original thought bubble. We don't really care or are interested in the individual that created the first wheel or ancient rocket or bridge or a million other things what we are interested in is the people that came after and utilised the "concept" and made it into a functional, rational, safe and efficient thing. Some ancient Chinese person invented the rocket but it took a lot more smarts to create a Saturn 5 rocket to send man into space. Original thinking is overvalued, methodical development and perfection a design or concept is where the real respect deserves to be.

Phil

February 22

On 1/28/2020 at 9:32 AM, LowRyter said:

Guzzi Trannies have a crunchy shift from 2nd to 3rd. Being deliberate helps but not always.

Really. Both of my six speeders have perfect shift action in all the gears.

Phil

February 22

9 hours ago, audiomick said:

It is not "fluid" in the literal sense of the word, but rather strictly regulated.

I'm guessing a bit, but only a very little bit. Fact is, according to European law, a vehicle has to meet the emmisions laws (and whatever else, like how wide the blinkers have to be etc.) that apply at the time of its first registration. That is regardless of when it was actually built, and which requirements it met at the time of production.

Apparently there is a government instance which can decide to allow a special exemption for things like the brand new still-in-the-crate Daytona that was mentioned here a while back. Without such a special exemption, however, such a "brand new but 20 years old" bike would not be able to be registered here in Europe, or at least here in Germany. I have also heard of manufacturers, including Moto Guzzi, I believe, being granted exemptions to clear "old stock" over the phasing in of a new set of compliance laws.

Anyway, and here I am guessing just a bit, in the face of that it makes sense that the date of first registration is recorded in the registration documents, as opposed to the date of manufacturer. That way the inspection engineer who does the bi-annual roadworthy inspection knows immediately which emissions laws apply, for instance. So I reckon that is why the date of first registration is recorded rather than the year of manufacture.

That seems "fluid" at first glance, but when one thinks about the regulations involved, it makes sense. I think.

Incidently, when I was still in Australia, it was the year of manufacture that was recorded on the registration sticker that has to be displayed on the vehicle. It is a sticker, readable from the outside, on the inside of the windscreen for a car/truck etc., and in a dedicated holder on a bike. As far as I know, that is still the case. Perhaps someone who still lives in Australia can confirm that?

Yea Mick as Guzzler said rego labels no longer exist. Probably about 10 years ago they were phased out. Good thing too. EU laws, what a nightmare. My Supra has a "locked" ecu since mid 2020. Anyone that wants to tune one needs to send the ecu to a specialist and get it "unlocked" or cloned and then you can flash tune it. The other way is to use an add on tuner box a bit like a Dynojet box. Doesn't affect me either way as i'll leave it alone but people will find ways around things which I am liking more and more as the "nanny state" thing gets more draconian.

Phil

February 21

6 hours ago, LaGrasta said:

I spoke once again to Andreani (Luciano, David). They spent a great amount of time sharing the kit development process, etc. It's obvious they are really familiar with our bikes.

Once they receive my forks, and confirm a kit can be developed, it will be listed in their catalog. They cannot start for a few weeks however. I'll keep us updated on the progress.

Considering there are only about 2 other cartridge options, Traxxion, Matris, and they cost at least twice what these do, I'm excited to develop these!

You forgot Maxton in Britain who will build you one of their 25mm Cartridges to suit. I rate their IOM TT experience and knowledge.

Phil

February 21

Is the locknut on the gearbox cover adjuster still tight?

Phil

February 20

9 hours ago, daviscr5 said:

First off, I apologize for posting an oil-related question. I realize this could lead to a proper thrashing on the forum. I did check the FAQs before posting (and read the dipstick calibration thread which didn't seem to really answer my question).

That said, I changed the oil yesterday (warmed bike up with a 10 min ride, drained, dropped the pan, changed the filter, wiped the pan dry, pre-filled the filter with oil, installed band clamp to prevent filter from backing out, and re-filled with precisely 3.25 liters - that includes the oil I pre-filled in the filter). Rode bike around the neighborhood so it was warm when I checked the oil (upright and level, screwed dipstick home before checking).

The dipstick is reading a little high - maybe 1/16" - 1/8" above the full mark. The manual called for 3.5 liters which is 250 cc's more than I already filled it with.

Am I good or should I drain a little out or add even more? Sorry!

Leave it as it is. It will be fine. Although not necessary I pre fill the filter if I can but there are plenty of instillations where you can't do this. As an aside I never leave the oil to drain overnight either. That can lead to priming issues.

Phil

February 20

4 hours ago, LaGrasta said:

I spoke to the Andreani rep today; nice guy, knowledgable. He is familiar with our forum and suspension threads. Even the @Lucky Phil debacle. He mentioned the difficulty with our bikes; not too many globally, and age. They only receive about two request a year.

He said if I'd send him my forks, he'd fit them, document everything and list their availability for future sales. I'm seriously considering it. I'll be calling him back later this week.

Yea I spoke to the fairly newly appointed at the time US Andreani Rep not long after my debacle. Seemed nice enough and indicted he would look at the identification issue. Actions speak louder than words though so hopefully he can get your forks sorted. Americans might have some leverage due to the market and most companies wanting traction there but here in Australias small market you just get fobbed off I'm afraid.

Phil

February 18

2 hours ago, Gmc28 said:

All makes some sense.

For sure am replacing the filter too. And I’ll see if i can force some air through the tank vents. New pump and filter are enroute….

Too many variables to this equation on a fuel system thats been dry for an extended period of time and is 25 years old to begin with. I would have changed out the filter as a basic precaution to start with. Any leaking issues with the external pump means it gets replaces. It's got plastic end caps crimped to the pump body, is 20 years old and lives in a hostile environment and any leakage in that area can result in a mobile disaster . I look at mine now and the aging of the plastic and think it's about time to just replace the thing anyway. The venting should be checked as others have pointed out but also the regulator. From personal experience used ones that have been left dry for extended periods like a few months or more can jam closed. You initiated the pump and hear it start and then begin to labour and there's a sudden loud "pop" as it comes unstuck. Maybe yours did unstick and the system over pressurised to an extent and caused the pump end cap sealing to fail? Although the pump itself has an internal pressure relief. To may variables on an aged system as I said. Time to just replace some components.

Phil

February 17

4 hours ago, docc said:

Lucky Phil was replying to Audiomick. Mick actually created a separate topic to help with the confusion:

Knowing if your 2003 V11 is actually a 2002 "Carryover" will direct your parts searches to the 2002 Parts Catalog and save much grief:

I thought the "carry over" thing for the 2002 models was an American thing only? A way they got rid of older unsold 2002 bikes in the US as re labelled 2003. Didn't think it applied to European bikes?

Phil

February 16

5 hours ago, audiomick said:

Coming out of the discussion that arose here (that I don't want to continue there to avoid de-railing the thread completely...)

I've been thinking once again about the originality of my V11 Le Mans.

As mentioned in the other link, it was built in 2002, has the crinkly engine paint, long frame and tank without the chin pad. The forks are the 43 mm Marzoccis with pre-load and rebound damping on both legs. Rear shock is Sachs with a white spring and blue adjustment ring.

The ECU is one of those with a paper sticker on it, a 15M. I've been reliably informed that those ECUs were not uncommen for a while. They were originally installed in a California model, were wrongly programmed and recalled, and used after re-programming in the factory in V11s.

All of the above seems to fit, going by what I have read here, for a 2002 "transition" build.

The combination that I haven't seen on any photos anywhere yet, and haven't heard mention of, is the dark grey colour with the slightly purple coloured mufflers and grey stilettos.

So I'm wondering if it was really built like that, or if it is a bitser. Does anyone have an opinion?

I've not seen a 2002 Le Mans with the later 43mm forks, the non chin pad tank, the later ITI instruments and the handlebar holes in the top triple clamp Mick. Maybe it's had the whole front end changed at some point and the PO has had a handlebar kit on it or it's a transition thing. Not sure. All the different models for the V11 series I find a bit confusing to be honest. Change the colour and call it a different name!

Phil

February 16

11 hours ago, audiomick said:

Dunno, mate. The VIN is ZGUKTA0102M111xxx, if that tells you anything.

Here you go. The left one is the same as the right-hand one visible in the picture:

Maybe your bike has had a front end swap Mick from a late model Sport naked or Ballabio? as it appears to have the mount holes in the top triple clamp for the high, traditional bar mounts? Either that or the PO has had a traditional bar kit on it in the past.

The later Sport Naked or Ballabio front end swap would account for the larger 43mm dia late forks as well.

Interestingly I can not find an image of a 2002 Le Mans with the non chin piece tank either. Maybe your bike was made in 2002 but is a 2003 model. Not sure. The date of manufacture and the year model are a bit mirky in Europe V America with the next year model production started usually after the European Summer holiday shutdown in August

Phil

February 16

5 hours ago, audiomick said:

I went down and had a look, and checked the papers again.

The tenth digit in the VIN is "2", so built in 2002 according to the collected wisdom here.

The front axle is hollow, and has a fastening nut on the outboard side of the left leg.

And this

is not the case. The fork adjustment is as described here on page 482 according to the document viewer. The page number printed on the page is section R page 20

https://guzzitek.org/gb/ma_us_uk/1100/V11_1999-2003_Atelier(Compil-GB-D-NL).pdf

What month of 2002 was your bike manufactured Mick. All the 2002 crinkle finish bikes I've seen on the internet have the 40mmm forks.

Phil

February 16

3 minutes ago, audiomick said:

I'm pretty sure, but not completely, that it doesn't. I measured them, and remember being pleased to have the fat ones.

And it definitely has the same adjusters on both legs, i.e. preload and rebound damping.

Ok then it's Italian cross over stuff, model designation or it's been fitted with the later forks at some point. See the 2002 and 2003 bikes in Reddit parked side by side. Different forks.

Phil

February 16

42 minutes ago, LaGrasta said:

I have the black forks, C adjustment on the left, R on the right.

40mm forks. The second generation.

Phil

February 16

7 minutes ago, audiomick said:

I'm not sure about the hollow axle, but that sounds like the forks on my 2002 Le Mans. Long tank, no chin-pad. Crinkley (flakey) engine paint, long frame.

I think you'll find Mick it has 40mm forks.

Phil

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