Troy Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I'm late to the party here. I haven't plugged in hardware nor loaded drivers yet, but My blue vag 409.1 cable and Fiat adapter couldn't have worked as delivered due to an incomplete ground path.It appears that only the "K" and "L" line functions apply here, with IAW15 pins 9 and 10 passing through Fiat cable pins 3 and 1 to the OBDII connector pins 7 and 15 respectively. Additionally the blue cable needs 12Volts and ground via the red and the black alligator clips respectively, to OBDII pin 16 and pins 4/5.My problem was that the Fiat cable ground only goes to OBDII connector pin 5, while the blue adaptor cable ground circuit only went to OBDII connector pin 4. So the board in the blue cable couldn't be powered up and the K and L signal levels had no reference.My fix was to move the black wire inside the blue housing from pin 4, which went nowhere, to pin 5, which gets to IAW15 ground and battery return.So if if you have a problem with the blue cable, this might be worth checking. Thanks for the good work you guys have done here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poon Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Hi, I just got me an Griso 850 2006, and now I'm wondering if there's a newer firmware out there for this bike. This is the information I got when I saved the original bin file, Drawing: 2229GRS8529 Hardware: IAW5AMHW610 Omologation: Software: Tester: WLoad1039T Date: 2006.04.06 /Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Minnaert Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Poon the newer 2230grs41 is not better, it's leaner running, someone I send it is back to the old one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Minnaert Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Why are there two start enrichment maps? When changing fuel (maps) is it necessary to change both left and right cyl. maps? or is the base (left) the only one to change? Why do the fuel/ignition maps show what I assume is the throttle opening percentage in a non linear fashion i.e. 1.0, 2.0, 4.2-60.9, 84.9? 1. There is one. 2. only left(main) will do, the delta map is a difference from left 3 Is so because there is more difference in small openings. Most of the time you have no more then 20 degrees open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meinolf Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Hi, Why do the fuel/ignition maps show what I assume is the throttle opening percentage in a non linear fashion i.e. 1.0, 2.0, 4.2-60.9, 84.9? the area of the inlet, dependent on the TPS angle, is non-linear because its a sine-function. With 30° TPS opening the inlet is already 50% open. Cheers Meinolf PS The table below does not include the area blocked by the shaft. But as this is "hidden" for throttle openings below ~70° and then only further accelerates the non-linear effect it shouldn't matter for the purpose of visualizing the reason. https://db.tt/xSczhd0T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czakky Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Paul, Meinolf. Thanks guys! Clears up those minor confusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czakky Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Why are there two start enrichment maps? 1. There is one. Mine does show "Cold Start B" set to 30495 revolutions, while the other is 40000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czakky Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Any body have a map I can use to compare?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moto fugazzi Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Any body have a map I can use to compare?..... I have a stock map for a 2001 V11 Sport. PM me off list, and I can email it to you. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwidave Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 This could be just the best thing. I think this is just what I need. I have a power commander on the bike it is a very old one but it is working very well. I have just p/u a old set of carb balance tubes man that has made a big different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi_Roy Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Shirley Dave, this can't be the first time you balanced the carbs. Dave has a sweet LeMans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuevototem Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Hi to all! I buy this cable: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-3pin-OBD2-KKL-VAG-409-1-USB-Fiat-ECU-Scan-Diagnostic-Interface-Alfa-Fiat-/251603446444?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123 I install the drivers without problems and get recognized. (I work with computers so no problem here) But GuzziDiag show me nothing... Any idea whats the problem? Anyone have this cable? Best regards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luhbo Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Check out what chip is inside, then try different driver versions, then open the connector and check the connections and solderings, then buy a different brand. That's what I did some years ago. Or call the buyer and tell him the China crap he's selling doesn't work. It will not surprise him and he'll send you another one. This is also a personal experience I made. Hubert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I have bought some cables with some trepidation. You guys have made me do this. Save me, Hubert! My bike runs fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czakky Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I think you will enjoy messing with some of the parameters. Just stay away from the cold start maps!.... Far Away! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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