moto fugazzi Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Does anybody happen to know if a 2000 V11 Lemans wiring harness is the same as a 2001 V11 Sport? Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Hi Ken, There's no such thing as a 2000 LeMans in the USA. They came out in '02. I believe the 2000 V11 Sport harness is the same as the 2001 but I would have a dealer check the part numbers to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moto fugazzi Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 I didn't think they had a LeMans then, but that's what the auction is listed as. It's Dave's (from this forum) bike. I'll have to check with a dealer. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxhall Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I saw the ebay postings for the parts of this bike. Did it really have 2400 miles on it when it was taken apart? If the miles are really that low, I'd be tempted to bid on some of the larger parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnR Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Spot the difference? v11 electrical gu01747160 injection gu01725890 99-01 sport electrical gu01747130 injection gu01725830 01-02 lm naked electrical gu01747160 injection gu01725830 cat' 03 electrical gu01747191 injection gu01725875 cafe ballabio 03-05 electrical gu01747191 injection gu01725875 / gu01725891 v11 99-01 sport 01-02 lm naked cat' 03 cafe ballabio 03-05 images and part numbers from stein dinse online parts catalogue http://www.stein-dinse.biz/eliste/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Spot the difference? That was cruel. I had to make an extra pot of coffee to keep looking. (Dave's 2000 harness is correct for the 2001. Unfortunate that someone is breaking it that doesn't know anything about it. For example, you can bid on half of a drive shaft ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danl Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 The ecu is mounted connector up on the early bikes (like mine) and so the harness length is different there. I just noticed that recently in another thread about Power Commander mounting. Anyone know why? Did this change coincide with the more shell like tail section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Not sure why the factory flipped it over (in '02, yeah?). Certainly some early seats ('99-'01) smashed down on the connector wiring. What do you mean by the "more shell like tail section?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danl Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Sorry, that wasn't the best description. The tail on my 2000 looks like the part seen below, where the sides are a complete volume. They are hollow, and if you put small parts in the storage compartment they can slide forward into the sides. I noticed in this post: http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=967&hl=pciii that the tail on later bikes seems to be just the outer surface. Also, the cover on the underside now attaches to brackets on the subframe rather than directly to the tail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 That wasn't a bad description at all. I've never noticed the change in the tail section, apparently also in '02. It must have a different part number. My 2000 compartment has a soft vinyl fabric liner which encloses the compartment, so I've not ever noticed pieces could escape into the hollow. Learn something here everyday! EDIT: The only part number I have is the 2002 tail: 01 57 31 60. The Stein-Dinse diagrams show that the 99-01 tail differs, but I can't seem to bring up a part number for it or the bag-like insert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moto fugazzi Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 So then I'm assuming the 2000 wiring harness will fit on my 2001, since all they made were V11 Sports those years (99-01)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I believe that is correct. The Rosso Mandello was the only other model in those years (2001), but is only different in the body parts and paint finishes AFAIK. The wiring should work for you, but I see the relays are sold separately. I do suppose both the electrical harness and the ignition harness are included, but not the coils and plug wires (separated). It seems there are various other connections and components separated. I noticed the sidestand wiring separate. Worth scrolling through the sellers other postings to see what might have been separated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moto fugazzi Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 Currently, I might only need the main harness and various parts, I think. Sometimes my bike won't start, and I found out if I turn the handlebars to the right a little, it will start. I'm assuming there's a break in the wire at the steering neck, but it could be almost anywhere. 95% of the time it starts fine with the handlebars all the way to the left, but sometimes it doesn't. Hard to pinpoint the problem when it's not consistent. This weekend, I'll check the connection to the starter switch on the handlebar. I'd rather not have to replace the entire harness, or scab in one broken wire. I figure if one wire is bad at the steering neck, the others are probably soon to follow. They sure take a lot of flexing over the years. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Ken, you're in luck as that is a common problem with an easy fix. You probably don't need a wiring harness and even if you did, it could have the same problem. Under the tank on the left side of the frame just behind the steering head are two bullet connectors that harness the clutch switch. The starter will not engage unless the clutch is disengaged. Those connectors are notorious for corroding and loosening up. Once accessed, clean them (Caig De-oxit is amazing), tighten them, and seal them either with some dielectric grease (or Vaseline) or heat shrink tubing (I use both). Make sure the clutch micro switch is clean and makes an audible little *click* when the lever is pulled. Keep us posted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 So, Ken, any joy getting it sorted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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