Tinus89 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Just to restate: I believe this brace adds no additional protection to the transmission case in a 2002 and later motorcycle - in fact it won't even fit without welding, which, IMO would be a waste of time. No reason a Tennista to buy one - unless you plan to get an early sport to keep her company. What exactly do you mean? I've had the engine and tranny several times now, I don't really feel like doing so again. My black frame indeed does not have the bracket on the tube to bolt the additional support to... Are there any ideas on what will happen if I continue to ride her? Catastrophic failure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luhbo Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 No catastrophic failure. Just a few spots on the garage floor and a burnt x-over. To the smell you can get used, after a year or so you'll probably miss it. Other question: Is it possible to mount the newer subframe to the KRs? Has anyone tried that before? While I didn't have a broken case so far I found the lower cross bolt loose several times over the years now. Scud could be right with the impression that KR frame and drive train are a bit 'elastic' at this point. Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scud Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Tinus - I think you'll be fine. From what I can see, the engine tends to move more in the short-frame bikes (is that what KR means?) than in the long-frame, later bikes. It is especially noticable with a rough idle. So you might just make sure you have a smooth, balanced idle, or adjust the idle speed up a bit to smooth it out. I dropped off a 2002 lower subframe for SP838 in New York a while back. He was going to try fitting it to his red-framed Sport. It would require: Machining down the surface on the large diagonal cross-brace that mates to the LH porkchop One of the following: Remove the bars that go forward to the engine block Tap holes in the engine block for the mounting bolts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luhbo Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Thanks. Probably beyond what I would be willing to do. And yes, KR I use for shortframe (personally for V11 Sport, but that would mean a rather small V11 forum). What is a Rosso Mandello? Something inbetween or a legit long frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Rosso Mandello is a short frame, only black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinus89 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 As both of you are saying what I already expected: no catastrophic failure, and since I am low on cash and reluctant to agáin take her apart completely, I am willing to leave it for a season and fix it next year. But, I do want to try and address the leak. Options: - Liquid gasket (since the case is already black anyway, and it is out of sight - Liquid metal - To yes or no use a small grinder (Dremel) and grind the crack into a V-shape before I fill her. What's your opinions? I also found this: http://hmb-guzzi.de/Gearbox-Housing-V11-black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luhbo Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Best option on the long run. No wrinkle, though. More important as the V would be stopping the crack by drilling a small hole at the end of it. I know a guy who used such a box for over a year on the race track before he eventually brought it to the welder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cash1000 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Can anyone find someone who stocks the plate? i.e. part no GU01202830 I have had no look - all manufacturer does not stock this part. My RM has the leak. Need to find/make a tray to go under gearbox and on exhaust to stop dip and subsequent blue haze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyNZ Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Can anyone find someone who stocks the plate? i.e. part no GU01202830 I have had no luck - all manufacturer does not stock this part. My RM has the leak. Need to find/make a tray to go under gearbox and on exhaust to stop dip and subsequent blue haze. Hi Nigel, I see a reference to a supplier here: https://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=20337&do=findComment&comment=231113 You may have to paint the red finish black for your bike. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Halvorsen Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I have the part 120290 - which is identical except with a smooth black finish - not the wrinckle paint. A few weeks ago I sent one case to another guy in New Zealand. You can contact him if you want to get references to me. Rolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cash1000 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Can anyone find someone who stocks the plate? i.e. part no GU01202830 I have had no luck - all manufacturer does not stock this part. My RM has the leak. Need to find/make a tray to go under gearbox and on exhaust to stop dip and subsequent blue haze. Hi Nigel, I see a reference to a supplier here: https://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=20337&do=findComment&comment=231113 You may have to paint the red finish black for your bike. Hi Marty, Thanks for the link. We should go for a ride sometime. I promise not to cover you with to much oil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cash1000 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I have the part 120290 - which is identical except with a smooth black finish - not the wrinckle paint. A few weeks ago I sent one case to another guy in New Zealand. You can contact him if you want to get references to me. Rolf Hi Rolf, Thanks for that. I read on MG Riders FB page here in NZ that someone else had same problem. I need to remove remove tank & airbox to determine that crack in gearbox is cause of problem. Then I can decide what i'm doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowRyter Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 If you have a redframe bike, you should get the brace. Better to do it before the gearbox housing cracks, not after. Contact Don at Motiv at the website listed. He's a Guzzi dealer now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cash1000 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 After taking Tank, airbox & starter motor off found leak was coming from sensor on left hand side of gearbox. Great that it wasn't a cracked gearbox. Gasket/washer was not doing its job. Used RTV & thread sealant until I can get replacement washer/gasket. While I had every thing off I checked about mounting the plate under air box. Found on my RM that there is no mounting points on the frame. Is anyone else's like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinus89 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, cash1000 said: After taking Tank, airbox & starter motor off found leak was coming from sensor on left hand side of gearbox. Great that it wasn't a cracked gearbox. Gasket/washer was not doing its job. Used RTV & thread sealant until I can get replacement washer/gasket. While I had every thing off I checked about mounting the plate under air box. Found on my RM that there is no mounting points on the frame. Is anyone else's like this? Yes, so was my 2001 RM. I've added the mounting point (welded to the frame) as shown here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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