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Yep, same situation here.  Allocation sold and they don't much care to try to interest any more customers.

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It sounds like way back when, the Miata came out and people lined up to buy them. Dealers didn't care and often raped buyers on the price.

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57 minutes ago, GuzziMoto said:

It sounds like way back when, the Miata came out and people lined up to buy them. Dealers didn't care and often raped buyers on the price.

Raped? Does supply and demand go out the window just because it's a vehicle? We blame the dealers? If the cars (or bikes) don't sell because of dealer markup then they will lower the markup. They aren't in the business of running a parking lot.

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15 hours ago, swooshdave said:

Raped? Does supply and demand go out the window just because it's a vehicle? We blame the dealers? If the cars (or bikes) don't sell because of dealer markup then they will lower the markup. They aren't in the business of running a parking lot.

I am not trying to judge the dealer, although I have seen some dealers do crazy shady stuff to up charge their customers. Some brands, it seems, do not allow their cars / motorcycles to be sold at prices much higher than msrp. So some dealers would actually falsely sell them as new and then turn around and sell them as used to get around that.

We were looking at buying a Mazda MP3 years ago. It was a limited production car, but not in the high demand the Miata was. I walked into one dealership and they had tacked on a couple thousand dollars in "Additional Dealer Profit". The salesman asked if he could help me, I said no. I said I was interested in this car but not at that price. He said we'll, everything is negotiable. I laughed, and said that if they had the balls to put that on the window sticker like that I really doubt that we could actually get to a price where I would be happy. If they are that greedy to my face, imagine how greedy they are behind my back....

I went to a different dealer and bought one for around $1,500 below msrp. 

But I do agree that if people are willing to pay those prices it isn't all the dealers fault. But that doesn't mean the dealer isn't at fault, just that it isn't all the dealers fault. Not all dealers play those games. The ones that do can't complain when called out on it.

So far I have not heard of Guzzi dealers playing those same games, and I hope they don't. They should just be happy that people actually want to buy their motorcycles. For now.

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Seems to me this is the right place for a little introduction....

Alongside my V11, I used to own a Honda Transalp 650. For in town, bit of offroad etc. With my car ageing and starting to be troublesome, I decided I wanted to do my commute by bike as well. But my Transalp is no fun on the highway. I sold the Transalp and bought another Italian*:

 

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*Funny thing: the Honda was secretly also built in Italy, in the same year as my V11 was, 600km elsewhere...

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I put a 19 inch front wheel up front with a street-knobby and I'm going to put a real dirt-knobby on the stock 21 inch wheel. Both wheels use the same hub, brake rotor and ABS sensor - so it's a simple swap.

If you look closely in the background, you can see snow. This is on California Hwy 1 at the south end of the Big Sur coastline. I think I will take the bike to the snow tomorrow morning.

Happy Thanksgiving.

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On 11/28/2019 at 1:01 PM, Scud said:

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This is on California Hwy 1 at the south end of the Big Sur coastline. I think I will take the bike to the snow tomorrow morning.

In my neighborhood.  That looks like the (rare) straight-as-a-string two mile stretch just south of San Carpoforo Creek, immediately north of which the road gets very twisty as it rises off the flat and into the coastal ridges.  It was on this segment years ago when a bunch of us on sport bikes (Duc 750 for me) were on the way to view a Luguna Seca road race.  A laggard whom we woke up on our way through Morro Bay passed me here in a red shift blur on his Yamaha R1.  When we stopped at Gorda for lunch, I asked him, a road race instructor, how fast he was going when he blew by.  He answered, "A bill and a half."  I.E., 150 mph.  So what happens when you smack a critter at that speed???  :o

In any event, you picked a unique time to ride through the neighborhood, the first major rain front of the season, and a damned cold one to boot.  Snow on the coastal ridges is a fairly rare event here.  I for one am keeping Claudia (V11 Sport Naked) snug and warm in the garage, no chill rain or snow on her delicate parts.  YMMV.  ^_^

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Thats' the spot. Here it is this morning, when I found a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow:

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And a dirt road off CA1 by Treebones, North of Gorda.

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Surf has been pretty good too. :-)

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looks like a great time Scud.  I don't see a tag or signals, so I assume the bikes isn't street legal?

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It's legal. The license plate broke off yesterday, you can see it in yesterday's photo. The rear signals are, shall we say... discreet.

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