docc Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 A80F980D-9AAF-4C32-A990-42A90DB5B2C8.jpeg I have just received confirmation... “The Rider is Vittoriano Guareschi.” As to the bike and engine - I will seek further information. It looks like that bike is a special that the Guareschis built for a customer. http://www.guareschimoto.it/portfolio-articoli/guareschi-presenta-750-gc/ So, it is not actually based on a V85, but a V7. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I have agree with Pete's view that cobbling up something that looks like a LeMans I would be pretty weak on Moto Guzzi's part. Especially for the centennial. This history goes so much deeper than the 1970s. It took me a long time (and a lot of contributors to this forum) for me to understand why my V11 Sport doesn't smack of a 1970s V7 Sport at all. It is because the designer had the latitude to draw from Moto Guzzi's racing prowess of the late forties and early fifties; a motorcycle I had never paid much attention to, the Gambalunghino. Admittedly, expecting Moto Guzzi to come up with a completely fresh sportbike without homage to their history is decidedly unlikely, especially for The Centernary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooshdave Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 It took me a long time (and a lot of contributors to this forum) for me to understand why my V11 Sport doesn't smack of a 1970s V7 Sport at all. It is because the designer had the latitude to draw from Moto Guzzi's racing prowess of the late forties and early fifties; a motorcycle I had never paid much attention to, the Gambalunghino. I know you keep referencing the V11 Sport and the Gambalunghino but I think the V11 Sport, especially it's fine ass, seems to come from the V10. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 The Dondolino and early Gambalunga have very similar/ same tail sections, the later Gambalunga/ Gambalunghino are slightly attenuated (They were race bikes, so there was some overlap and variation). Here ya go: "Eh! The Centauro ... I started drawing it from Dondolino! The V11 from the Gambalunghino. In every Guzzi there must be a common thread ... that spirit ..." Luciano Marabese 2002 http://archivio.animaguzzista.com/maestri/marabese/marabese.htm " . . . quello spirito . . . " 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I've never been entirely enamored with the V11 tail section, but apparently, Marabese realy dug it! Swooshdave is onto something, though: since the V11's design study (Gambalunghino) followed from the V10 Centauro's design study (Dondolino), the V11 (tail, especially) follows naturally from the Centauro. Seems designer Marabese nailed it! I added a post to the late Bruce Lawson's "RIP Luciano Marabese" thread showing some interesting comparison images of the design studies : https://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19665&p=235286 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Okay, okay . . . time for me to give SooRoo's thread back . . . Let us hope that Moto Guzzi's present design team has the latitude and talent to give us some enticing new models. Seems they are promising a reveal this coming EICMA. That is only a couple months away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScuRoo Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 You’re correct Tom M - it ain’t no skunk project V85! Apologies all for any unintended false alarm janglings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I think it pretty intrepid for Moto Guzzi to have introduced this new model line with homage to their off-road history. Something the world, and many Guzzisti, know nothing of . . . With EICMA approaching, and the cruisers and bobbers and standards all covered, there just must-must-must be a Sport or LeMans coming. There must. Musn't there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rox Lemans Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Im waiting for the Lemans . You know it's coming .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete roper Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Not any time soon and not using that motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooshdave Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Not any time soon and not using that motor. Take the 1400cc engine, add wheels, seat and handlebars. Done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Not any time soon and not using that motor. Take the 1400cc engine, add wheels, seat and handlebars. Done! After all, a proper Guzzi is just a delightful motor with a place to hang on and will your way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooshdave Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Shamelessly stolen image that I further abused with some judicious Photoshopping. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footgoose Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 nice I'm liking how these folks are thinking. there are a few versions-searching guzzi 1400 lemans. Design Corner - Moto Guzzi Le Mans 1400 by Marcocarbon. Homage to Guzzi design heritage makes my heart beat a little faster. I may be ready for a set of suspenders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete roper Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 "Oh, the 1400 motor is the answer to a maiden's prayer!" I think not. Look at the porting compared to the 1200. The shitty one one is the 1400. It's not a motor that will make power. Stuffing the 7SM controlled 1400 into a 'Sporty' chassis will be a pathetic disappointment, vis the POS out of So-Cal and the lies that need to be told about how wonderful it is. Mind you that doesn't even have a 'Sporty' Chassis. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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