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12 hours ago, LowRyter said:

Faith.  It does work both ways. 

OTOH, I was in Arkansas in June and no dealer in Russellville (Honda and Suzuki, two dealerships) would put a tire on my Ducati.  The Honda dealer would ONLY work on Hondas- they were backed up for months.  But the tire change would've taken, what 20 minutes? 

I think the big shop in Fayetteville would've done it and had me on my way.  I was heading home anyway and it was a good excuse to leave with riders I wasn't comfortable with.

A word for the wise when traveling. 

I remember you reporting this.

Maybe it is my safety culture, but if I had been a dealer, knowing that leaving your on the road with a worn out tire was not the best course of action, I would have made an exception. If only for keeping my peace of mind. Because if you had had an accident and it had turned out a worn out tire was the culprit, there is some kind of mental liability there.

I understand what you mean with riding solo. Riding in a group implies responsibility; some riders don't understand it. It is no longer individual driving and different set of rules apply. Else, there is no point. I did a lot of team road riding before, I am more into solitary rides now. Not that I don't appreciate tandems or more, but I like to stop to take impromptu photos whenever I see something I think can justify it; which is against the group safe ride procedures which have determined stops established ahead of time.

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21 hours ago, PJPR01 said:

I haven't spent a lot of time trying to figure out the science, but I have two premises, one is that the rear tire temperature is almost always 10 degrees C hotter than the front ( I use my Steelmate TPMS to monitor both pressure and temperature), and I suppose carries more weight due to panniers and rider position.  I would imagine the temperature is driven off multiple factors (downstream of engine, exhaust?, weight), but I would think heat is a primary contributor.  Others who are more expert can chime in...perhaps there are other factors as well.

There may also be the UV factor implied. You know that UV rays affect the molecular structure of elastomers. This is why you always need to put your o'rings in opaque bags, so they don't catch the light, besides the 10 years shelf life.

We have a lot of sun here in this State. I have seen what that did to my joints on my cars, which have hardened precociously. There are different compounds to fight it. But nitrile is one of the cheapest, and one of the most prone to UV alterations. None of the tire manufacturers are going to tell us what recipe they use, but for sure hard light induces premature aging.

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On 1/31/2022 at 6:31 PM, p6x said:

It is not as bad; I requested the tires on December 29th; Davey said he would tell me when he would be ready to install them.

He asked me to bring the bike on January 21th; I brought the bike on January 27th.

From the 29th until the 27th, it was hidden time since I kept riding.

I could have gone to another shop and gotten the tires installed in one day if it had been an emergency. I am just a faithful guy.

 

I got the call today....

My Le Mans is ready; March 10th, 2022 minus January 27th, 2022 = six weeks as told. Perfect timing!

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I repossessed my Le Mans yesterday, and the Michelin Road 5s were a complete shocker to me....

As I was going to turn left on Park Ten boulevard, I thought I had a technical issue as the bike just dropped into the turn with the usual input. I stopped and had a visual check, everything seemed fine.

Doing a succession of left and rights to warm and scrub the tires on the I-10 feeder, I quickly realized the new tires were the culprits for that new handling.

It felt like I was on a different motorcycle. I no longer needed to firmly curb the bike into curves, it read my mind, and I just had to feather it, no matter how sharp the turn radius.

Mesmerizing and exhilarating!

I can't wait to go back to the 3 Twisted Sisters and Brothers to check it out.

The Michelin tires which were on the bike when I got it were of a different type (Pilot race 2). The front tire allegedly new according to the dealer who sold the bike to me.

I am just taken aback by the complete feel change, while everything else remained the same.

Which reinforces my belief that changing tires often is essential. Now I am not going to advocate Michelin just yet; I will need to verify how other brands and types fare.

This is a time when I'd wish I could have multiple Le Mans equipped with different tires, just so one can really fine tune the choice.

I am really impressed by those new tires though.

 

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If the 5's are anything like the 3's and 4's before, you'll really enjoy them.  They do make the bike quite intuitive...and turns are effortless.  Think left and you're left, think right and you're right.  Bring the bike up one day to the National Forest and scrub the edges off those new tires!  

 

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6 hours ago, PJPR01 said:

If the 5's are anything like the 3's and 4's before, you'll really enjoy them.  They do make the bike quite intuitive...and turns are effortless.  Think left and you're left, think right and you're right.  Bring the bike up one day to the National Forest and scrub the edges off those new tires!  

 

How would the Michelin compares with other brands?

According to the reviews on the Michelin site, the Road 5 wears out quickly. I will be able to confirm that in November this year, after I complete this year's Texas tour.

 

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