Moto Guzzi V100 Sport Tourer: water cooled, 120 HP (26th of August 2021)

[LowRyter]

went to Don's shop today, saw the new bike.  Bike looks just like the photos.  Seems like a nice piece, sounds great, comfy seating, dashboard menu is neat.  Didn't care for the header heatshield, sorta tacked on, would take them off and show the stainless pipes like my Sport.

here's Darren the model





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gonna test ride when it warms up next week.  Since he's got both my Guzzis, hopefully he fix'em & it won't be long.  (my EV on the rack) (oh and my Greenie in front)

[p6x]

On 3/8/2023 at 3:29 PM, Joe said:

I agree 100% with Giuseppe from the same article-

 

Giuseppe Grisi

20 hours ago

All that is well and good. Maybe. Fair question: Can Gooz execute? Fact is they prototyped this motor what 25 years ago? And the look, the vibe of the bike recalls an awkward take on the regrettably failed Terreblanche experiment. They'd be way better off today if they'd had the ball bearings to roll with it.

It's all indicative of a company missing the backbone to lead.

Yes, Guzzi is sometimes nice on design and dynamics, but just abysmal on execution.

At the end of the day Gooz reliably fails and shows contempt for its customers by pumping out poorly assembled, poorly executed, not ready for prime-time bikes.

Don't believe me? Three little words. Griso valve train. Look it up. And I'm going to beat on that drum and add:

Griso electrics. Griso lubrication. This all applies to Stelvio as well. Don't get me started on dealerships, service, the Roadside Contempt Program.

So until someone can persuade me that Mandello has implemented a well-funded and serious program to vet components, vendors, assembly line performance and invests in a serious way on building the dealer network, the answer is:

non tra un milione di anni

Hey, three time Gooz owner here. Just fired up a couple of them for the first time this year. So I've been there, rode that, got the toolbox to prove it.

 

Giuseppe just omitted a couple of important components to his roster: Passion (ours), Charisma (Gooz).

I have ridden many insipid motorcycles; like everyone else here. I like that my Guzzi is like myself: imperfect... or rather, perfectible...

The assessment is correct that Guzzi drops the ball in Quality Assurance.

But as we say in my language: un homme averti en vaut deux or forewarned is forearmed in English.

Some of us enjoy the DIY. It can be costly, but at our age, we need to do something with our money.

I have decided that I will most likely not go V100, not because I am afraid of quality control. I will stay with old air cooled Guzzi for as long as I can.

[Joe]

18 minutes ago, p6x said:

Giuseppe just omitted a couple of important components to his roster: Passion (ours), Charisma (Gooz).

I have ridden many insipid motorcycles; like everyone else here. I like that my Guzzi is like myself: imperfect... or rather, perfectible...

The assessment is correct that Guzzi drops the ball in Quality Assurance.

But as we say in my language: un homme averti en vaut deux or forewarned is forearmed in English.

Some of us enjoy the DIY. It can be costly, but at our age, we need to do something with our money.

I have decided that I will most likely not go V100, not because I am afraid of quality control. I will stay with old air cooled Guzzi for as long as I can.

p6x,

I’ve owned 4 Guzzi’s, all big block air cooled, 3-1100, 1-850. I love Guzzi’s with all of their quirks of ownership. I think Giuseppe loves Guzzi’s too, just after production has been vetted out, that’s a fair statement. I’ve got to say, I’m still drawn to the V100 like a fly to a bug zapper, but am trying to refrain till I see them run a little.

[LowRyter]

1 hour ago, p6x said:

Giuseppe just omitted a couple of important components to his roster: Passion (ours), Charisma (Gooz).

I have ridden many insipid motorcycles; like everyone else here. I like that my Guzzi is like myself: imperfect... or rather, perfectible...

The assessment is correct that Guzzi drops the ball in Quality Assurance.

But as we say in my language: un homme averti en vaut deux or forewarned is forearmed in English.

Some of us enjoy the DIY. It can be costly, but at our age, we need to do something with our money.

I have decided that I will most likely not go V100, not because I am afraid of quality control. I will stay with old air cooled Guzzi for as long as I can.

I had that discussion with the dealer owner.  He made a point that the V85tt and V9 had few quality problems and only a couple of minor recalls.  I think I'd be less afraid of this one than anything they've done in years.  My concern is all the electrics and they seem to have a good record considering the Aprillia shared stuff.  

[Joe]

Not sure if this is going to work, but a screen shot pic of a V100 Mandello FB post, anyways a new V100 with motor issues stemming from a C-clip not installed correctly on a rocket arm shaft. Which is exactly what Giuseppe was trying to say….. 

 

[p6x]

14 hours ago, Joe said:

Not sure if this is going to work, but a screen shot pic of a V100 Mandello FB post, anyways a new V100 with motor issues stemming from a C-clip not installed correctly on a rocket arm shaft. Which is exactly what Giuseppe was trying to say….. 

 

Point Taken @Joe

The assembly line is not usually populated by the most technical people, although, when I visited Borgo Panigale in the 80's, the workers that I met were not only there for the job. Some were, undeniably, but for the most part, they were motorcycle enthusiasts. They took a lot of pride in what they were doing.

I cannot speak for Mandello del Lario, but if they do not have a Japanese based QA system, (I have a friend working at a Toyota plant in Argentina), and QA/QC is brutal there, then they have no QA/QC.

I could tell you about QA/QC of my Ford Transit Connect, assembled in Spain. Not that I am trying to forgive Guzzi who should have taken extra steps to make the V100 flawless since it was its first exposure to the world.

Furthermore, it was an export model. Usually they treat the "exports" with more care.

So, not good Guzzi, I agree....

If Piaggio had a CS system in Italy, I would tell them this is the best way to drop the reputation of a bike, even before it starts!