Paul Minnaert Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 On 2/7/2023 at 10:51 PM, Paul Minnaert said: I got the layers letter too, for fastguzzi.nl So I gave it to Piaggio, can't afford the time and money to fight it. Web site is now at http://www.minnaert.net 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 7 minutes ago, Paul Minnaert said: So I gave it to Piaggio, can't afford the time and money to fight it. Web site is now at http://www.minnaert.net I recall interviews in the Centenery Videos asking the question, "What is one word to sum up Moto Guzzi?" Pausing only briefly, Alis Agostini replied, "Struggle. " She would know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 Could the model names be next? Seems this hapless Cardolino has blundered into the snare . . . 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 All kidding aside, I propose we pin thread in FAQ with links to current business names with links and a reference to the name that had to be surrendered. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINDOY2 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 4 hours ago, Paul Minnaert said: So I gave it to Piaggio, can't afford the time and money to fight it. Web site is now at http://www.minnaert.net I think its an excellent name! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scud Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, docc said: Could the model names be next? Yeah... California, Nevada, the Stelvio National Park, and LeMans are gonna have to think of something quick. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstallons Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 Now that's funny ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstallons Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 7 hours ago, Paul Minnaert said: So I gave it to Piaggio, can't afford the time and money to fight it. Web site is now at http://www.minnaert.net I like the word left in place but scribbled out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footgoose Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 what about Goose, Gootsie, etc? they can't trademark everything Lots of HD places began using "V Twin" A local BMW repair shop switched to B&W must be some creative ways around it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfrog Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 I wonder if the city of Le Mans, France or its namesake race track ever got any royalties from Moto Guzzi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfrog Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 GUZZIMOTO -— one word! If the Piaggio lawyers knock on your door, tell ’em it’s a Japanese name... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motortouring Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, gstallons said: I like the word left in place but scribbled out! I wonder if Piaggio has a Guzzi that goes faster, than yours. In fact there is nothing misleading in FastGuzzi. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motortouring Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Speedfrog said: GUZZIMOTO -— one word! If the Piaggio lawyers knock on your door, tell ’em it’s a Japanese name... Sukiyaki Django Guzzi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hagan Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 I am starting to worry about the Moto Grappa … … and am glad I decided to put this sign inside instead of outside. OTOH, living as I do in Frederick County, at the top of Virginia, I think my views are more of the Molon labe sort ... Seriously, I appreciate the commercial need to protect intellectual property of all kinds, yet, especially for mini-brands such as Moto Guzzi, balancing the loss of trade dress protection by the name becoming generic against the gain from “advertising” by enthusiasts of the marque would sure seem counterproductive. Rather than absolute “cease & desist” letters, Piaggio suits might have accomplished the same thing with requiring a token payment for use, thus protecting their ownership without alienating so many Guzzisti. They must have a rosier view of the moto-future than I do. Maybe it’s just the “principle of the thing.” That then gets to that old curse: “God grant my enemy a lawsuit in which he is right.” Back to reality here, which, in my case, means Her Grace’s list. Bill 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiomick Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 10 hours ago, Bill Hagan said: Maybe it’s just the “principle of the thing.” It's that, and it is a very big corporation that makes millions of scooters and a couple of thousand Moto Guzzis per year. Someone in a suit contracted a lawer's practice to look for "infringements" on the net. No-one is looking to see if the "infringement" is really detrimental to the Moto Guzzi image or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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