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******* Ohlins GROUP BUY DETAILS ***********
- The shocks will be ordered through an official Ohlins Technician and the order placed internally with Ohlins (To O.E.M. MG127 specifications as built for Piagio / Moto Guzzi V11)
- The shock will be a standard 2 way adjustable (Compression and Dampening adjustments, along with spring Pre-Load)
- The shocks will be Built / Assembled / Tested, etc. at the Ohlins factory in Sweden
- The shocks will be shipped to Ohlins U.S.A. in Hendersonville, NC
- These shocks to have full warranty as offered by Ohlins per their terms and conditions http://www.ohlinsusa.com
- Orders will be shipped from Ohlins USA to your address as provided when you placed your Prepaid Order - Shipping Charges may apply!!
- Delivery is expected to be 6 - 8 weeks from time of order (Main group order - not your individual order)
- The Spring installed will be suited for someone between 180lbs - 200lbs, other springs can be ordered and installed - ASK.
- These shocks will be ordered with the Hydraulic Spring Pre-Load Adjusters option only
- Any special valving or other option requests will not be considered - please see a local Ohlins or Suspension shop
- Cost To Be Confirmed within the next couple of days – Price should be less than MSRP from Piagio
(November 12)
********** PRICE FOR COMPLETE SHOCK AS DESCRIBED ABOVE $1,200.00 U.S.D. **********
Price Includes Shipping within Continental United States. Other destinations such as Canada, Europe, etc. will be charged extra (nominal amount)
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THE GROUP BUY QUANTITY REQUIRED BY OHLINS IS 25 SHOCKS
Anyone with a V11 by now may be having issues with the rear shock...leaking seals, shaft damage, etc.
This is probably the easiest and least painful method of replacement / upgrade of your shock.
As most of you already know, Ohlins was an OEM supplier and were installed on some
Guzzi V11's.If You have any questions post here or PM me.
NOTE ********* If any dealers are interested PM me ASAP.
Cheers,
John (Raceboy)
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More random pics.........
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A few more pics...
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Here is my Ohlins Unit...
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Good day folks,
Good news. I picked up my Ohlins rear shock yesterday
(built to MG127). This unit described to me by the local Ohlins Tech and Ohlins U.S.A as identical to the Piagio OEM Ohlins rear shock. I'm not sure if the OEM version came with a Pre - Load Adjuster, I ordered with Pre - Load Adjuster and It will be part of the Package in the group buy....,(makes life much easier).See Pics below................
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The details of what (specs) and how much ($$$) will be worked on and discussed in due course.
Basically for right now I need a head count of who is serious and willing to commit to buy a custom built Ohlins rear shock.
The latter # will of course depend upon the former. Kind of hard to commit until we know if the price is competitive: there's several suspension options out there these days; Ohlins no longer has a near monopoly on performance suspension supply like they did 15 years ago.
Yes indeed Skeeve. I am trying to gauge the general interest from the membership on this opportunity. I have already committed to my shock, paid deposit and will pick up my shock once John (Ohlins tech) returns from his travels.in about a week or so.
As mentioned in previous post(s) I will post all the info I can (price, specs, options, and pics).
Cheers,
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************** FULL UPDATE with PRICING ************** See Posts & Pics below (Nov 11)
Hi all,
The Ohlins tech is currently traveling for a few different events (testing and out of country races). He is expected to return the first week of November.
As mentioned above the exact details will be presented here once everything is ironed out. The Shock I ordered from him is in his shop ready for me, so I'm also very anxious for his return and get my hands on my NEW
Ohlins shock.I will post detailed info and pics.
Of course I can't expect people to commit blindly, I just wanted an idea of how people would be interested if price and details are in order.
Cheers,
Raceboy
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**** FULL UPDATE ****** See Below & Pics Post below (Nov 11)
******* PRICING INFORMATION - SEE POST FURTHER DOWN ************ (NOV 12)
Good day folks,
Welcome to all who followed over from the other thread, or anyone who stumbled here in need of suspension help.Ok so, a short recap; I've asked a local Ohlins race suspension tech who has built a shock for my V11, if he would consider building a bunch of Ohlins shocks for the V11 and sell as a group buy on here (V11LeMans fourm). The details of what (specs) and how much ($$$) will be worked on and discussed in due course.
Basically for right now I need a head count of who is serious and willing to commit to buy a custom built Ohlins rear shock.
Cheers,
Raceboy (John)=============================================================================================
******* Ohlins GROUP BUY DETAILS ***********
- The shocks will be ordered through an official Ohlins Technician and the order placed internally with Ohlins (To O.E.M. MG127 specifications as built for Piagio / Moto Guzzi V11)
- The shock will be a standard 2 way adjustable (Compression and Dampening adjustments, along with spring Pre-Load)
- The shocks will be Built / Assembled / Tested, etc. at the Ohlins factory in Sweden
- The shocks will be shipped to Ohlins U.S.A. in Hendersonville, NC
- These shocks to have full warranty as offered by Ohlins per their terms and conditions http://www.ohlinsusa.com
- Orders will be shipped from Ohlins USA to your address as provided when you placed your Prepaid Order - Shipping Charges may apply!!
- Delivery is expected to be 6 - 8 weeks from time of order (Main group order - not your individual order)
- The Spring installed will be suited for someone between 180lbs - 200lbs, other springs can be ordered and installed - ASK.
- These shocks will be ordered with the Hydraulic Spring Pre-Load Adjusters option only
- Any special valving or other option requests will not be considered - please see a local Ohlins or Suspension shop
- Cost To Be Confirmed within the next couple of days – Price should be less than MSRP from Piagio
(November 12)
********** PRICE FOR COMPLETE SHOCK AS DESCRIBED ABOVE $1,200.00 U.S.D. **********
Price Includes Shipping within Continental United States. Other destinations such as Canada, Europe, etc. will be charged extra (nominal amount)
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THE GROUP BUY QUANTITY REQUIRED BY OHLINS IS 25 SHOCKS
Anyone with a V11 by now may be having issues with the rear shock...leaking seals, shaft damage, etc.
This is probably the easiest and least painful method of replacement / upgrade of your shock.
As most of you already know, Ohlins was an OEM supplier and were installed on some
Guzzi V11's.If You have any questions post here or PM me.
NOTE ********* If any dealers are interested PM me ASAP.
Cheers,
John (Raceboy)
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Good day everyone in GuzziLand and on V11LeMans forum.
I've posted on this thread and elsewhere on the forum that I've been looking to replace the leaking and beat up Sachs rear Shock with an Ohlins unit. After numerous attempts with local MG dealer to confirm for certain if an O.E.M. part is still available from Piaggio US or Italy. It has been confirmed that they no longer have stock and will not replenish stock. So on that note I've tried another route.
I have found a certified Ohlins suspension technician who has assembled / built an Ohlins rear shock for me and is now also rebuilding the front forks (Ohlins). I'll get my hands on everything once he gets back from Daytona and elsewhere in November.
I've asked if he would be interested in assisting the V11 membership by building a number of Ohlins shocks and selling to the group; he said he would consider it, so him and I will talk about details when he gets back in early November.
I'll start this thread here: http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18772
Cheers,
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Hey Jim,
Yeah yeah back in the day. WOW!! I remember hearing Tims name regularly...was Pat announcing back then or did he come in later. I think that was when the Neilson Family still owned Shannonville.
I never raced Loudon, but many racer friends went there regularly. I did race the 24hr at Ledges a few times and always torrential storm at some point during the race.
St. Jovite, that was part of the Brimaco series wasn't it??
Cheers Jim, cool to cross paths and bench race a little.....
John
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Good day folks,
I'm in desperate need of a (new) shock, as i'm sure many you V11 owners are. The OEM Sachs has be pulled and i'm all the oil and gas i'm sure has leaked out. And now since I have Ohlins front forks I want an equally capable new rear shock...so on that note....
I've contacted Elka suspension in Quebec Canada in the past (2 or 3 yrs ago) and said they will do a group by for 10 shocks but need a donor bike for a few weeks, I'm about 6 hours away...and they can be difficult at times.
Next I've also contacted a local Ohlins tech although not holding my breath on that one...
Third possibility is a Penske fully adjustable unit, probably much easier to execute since they've previously built shocks for the V11 in the past.
Has anyone though about a group buy from Penske??? Maybe a bit of deal to be had.
Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions, etc.... Anyone in the U.S. want to take the lead on this and run the Group Buy???
Count me in!!!!!!
Cheers,
RB
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Good day all,
So?!! What are the chances of getting my hands on an OEM Ohlins Shock???? ...new, used, beat up and leaking...I don't care.
Well if by some miracle the Guzzi Gods smile upon me, if someone is parting out a V11 or similar with an Ohlins...please please contact me!!
Thanks in advance,
raceboy (John) -
Thanks cazkky.
Cheers,
rb
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Greetings and salutations to all,
John (raceboy) from Toronto Canada. I'm 55 yrs
fAlthough I've been a V11 owner for 7 or 8 years and on the forum about same, I never picked up on this thread....so better late than never.
I currently own a 2004 Red V11 (twin valve, in case a 4 valve head version still existed). Bought mid 2007. I don't have current pictures to display since the condition of the bike has been somewhat neglected...shame on me...take me out back-o-da-barn and flog me senseless. But that is currently being corrected in time for next year. The Guzzi is on the stand in the shop stripped down and looking for tasteful modifications to be done. I'll get into details else where, I'm always interested and on the lookout for various ideas from the
Brotherhood on mods.The reason for the Guzzi neglect is 2 part: First, stone shot from the bike in front of me and into the headlight,...glass & reflector smashed. Second, while hunting around for a replacement headlamp unit in, Piaggio Canada brings in the lil 2009 Aprilia RS125
so I bought one. Guess what?? The Guzzi stayed parked for the next 4 years. So here we are.I've riding since 1975. The list of bikes:1973 Yamaha RD350, 1975 Yamaha RD350, Yr?? Honda CB400/4, 1976 Suzuki GS750, 1981 Honda CB750F, 1982 Kawasaki GPZ550, 1987 Kawasaki EX500, 2004 Moto Guzzi V11, 2009 Aprilia RS125, Tigcraft race frame I originally built with KLX650 motor. Now reviving that bike and looking to fit a new motor...maybe an Aprilia 4.5 or 5.5 V-twin.
I started road racing in 1982 locally in Ontario, Canada and select races in the northern States. Then with a few friends put a team together and Raced in WERA and CCS Endurance events mostly when we could for the next 8 yrs. Raced locally til about 1994. Have done many track days recently with the Aprilia. Fun bike to ride very hard and fast even though it is only a 125cc 2T.
But I must say one of the better memories racing was getting passed by Dr John's Guzzi during some of the events we participated together in. Our bike was highly modified 1982 GPZ550 in the GTU class. I rode like a mad man just keep that Guzzi (racing in the GTO class) within ear shot for a few laps until it disappeared and then reappeared for the next lap down pass, which usually happened in the longer races.
Well there it is my meager life in a few lines text.
Hope to chat again soon
Cheers,
RB
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If it isn't made for a hollow axle, you can swap the bottoms for those of the aprilia mounted ohins. But it is way to much money and work for the difference, to swap these parts.
Paul thanks, I had a feeling that was the case. Do or would the breakers (salvage) sell them separately?
RB
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Hello all,
I just bought the Ohlins forks from a Nero Corsa (year unknown). I've read all the posts and understand fully (for the most part) what needs to be done.
I have one question at this time just to get myself ready for what lies ahead.
Did this version come with a hollow axle or a solid axle????? The pics on the classified section does not show clearly the lower axle/caliper foot.
If it came with a solid axle what would be the easiest bike to get a hollow axle lower fork mount for the Ohlins fork and using Guzzi/Brembo calipers???
Thanks guys,
Raceboy
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Jasper that's quite the interesting beast, that's the direction I'm kind of looking to go but keeping the "Almighty Shaft"
Cheers,
Raceboy
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Distilled Waters: The gauges do not have to take much heat. Here's the second way I added gauges. It works better:
http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?...hl=oil+pressure
Nice job Greg, Just an observation here, but, you mention you used a gauge rated at 60 psi, but in your preliminary findings you indicate that you see pressure rise to 65 psi......hmmmm???
Also in the link shown above you say that you found a nice temp sender (electric / electronic I assume) that fits somewhere near the drain bolt. Can you please provide more details on this sender and the possible installation along with the associated temp gauge.
Cheers & Thanks,
Raceboy
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A big, hard SHAFT is one of the reasons why I like the Guzzi....
Like the old saying goes....... "It's Hard To Be Humble With A Shaft Like Mine" or something like that.
Cheers,
RB
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You can have my drawing for the pivots.
Paul thanks I would like to have a look at the drawings you have, not only for the pivots but also for the yokes you had made.
RB
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Do you have enough balls to make a single side swingarm? I wonder if you can adapt a CARC rear end?
I hope so!
Hey G, I'll give it a shot if you provide me with a wheel and CARC setup.
Raceboy
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Gene, RB is moving the swingarm pivot forward, like Paul did. The only difference between the SWB and LWB bikes is the ANGLE of the steering-head relative to the spine. The frames are the same length, and swingarms, etc. are dimensionally identical.
Ah yes silly me swb = short wheelbase, lwb = long wheelbase.
Thanks RH, well if nothing else just have some fun cutting up aluminum and make up shiny bits also give'm something yap about at the local Guzzi rally here in the Great White North. But true can only go so far with the V11 which is still miles behind the 'Current State Of The Motorcycle Art'. On the other hand I'll be ready for Vintage racing when the V11 comes of age..
Raceboy
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Good luck and keep us posted.
Do the lwb bikes have the swingarm pivots rearward like you are going to do?
lwb??????
RB
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Hey all,
After reading and re-reading the posts from the first go-round on this topic, as well as reading other threads and visiting Paul's FastGuzzi site and others; It got me to thinking! (Could be dangerous).
I know I'll get some adverse feedback on this but I'm sure others would be interested and hopefully can contribute with useful information. So I'll layout my idea and see what happens.
I just recently bought myself CNC Mill, I've also met an aircraft certified welder / fabricator who is willing to play with me and my ideas. At the very worst this will serve two purposes but the third purpose is the target; 1) to put my new mill through its paces, 2) so I can get some practice and 3rd) so the V11 handles better and is more stable when pushed hard. This will not be a quick project probably take me most of the fall season and into the winter months.
Ok ready here goes..............
To address the problem of the V11 having a short swing-arm and not positioned in the optimum location (the pivot lining up with the U-Joint). I will attempt to remake the 'Pork Chops' with the pivot point relocated and to also encompass more adjustability in foot pegs and controls. Of course to go along with this I will need to make a new swing-arm rather than modifying the OEM steel swing-arm. I'm hoping as a positive side affect I will also loose some weight in the process... (may also give an opportunity to relocate battery, lower).
As a starting point I will use Paul M measurements; adding 60 mm to swing-arm length, moving swing-arm pivot 70 mm forward, and also moving the pivot point down to line up with the shaft U-joint (I don't know what that measurement is at this time). The stock shock location / position / dimensions will not be altered at this time. I'm using the Ohlins dimensions of 286 mm eye to eye length.
Now, during this excessive exercise NO original V11 parts will altered, cut, reworked or otherwise mangled in any way by my hand; so if it all goes to CRAP I can put it all back together in original configuration. But if it seems to be working out I will proceed and alter the front steering head to 24 or 25 degrees from the original 26 degrees on my long frame V11.
The material to be used will be aluminum, and the grade(s) will be 6061 for the pork chops and 7075 for the swing-arm. I will attempt to make the swing-arm with as few welds as possible.... I know more wastage but should provide more strength.
Any ideas, suggestions, comments, advice, help, pictures, etc on any or all aspects of this project would be greatly appreciated, of course collaboration would be most welcome.
Raceboy
Ohlins Rear Shock Group Buy!
in 24/7 V11
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********** PRICE FOR OHLINS SHOCK AS DESCRIBED ABOVE $1,200.00 U.S.D. **********
Price Includes Shipping within Continental United States. Other destinations such as Canada, Europe, etc. will be charged extra (nominal amount)
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THE GROUP BUY QUANTITY REQUIRED BY OHLINS IS 25 SHOCKS
Anyone with a V11 by now may be having issues with the rear shock...leaking seals, shaft damage, etc.
This is probably the easiest and least painful method of replacement / upgrade of your shock.
As most of you already know, Ohlins was an OEM supplier and were installed on some
Guzzi V11's.
If You have any questions post here or PM me.
NOTE ********* If any dealers are interested PM me ASAP.
Cheers,
John (Raceboy)