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Be carefull anyway. Logging with a laptop always is a bit risky. You may ruin your harddisk pretty quickly.
Hubert
I did not think about that. What is Raz using? laptop?
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Hubert
Thanks. Will try that one.
Jocke........
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I found that to be a problem when logging just the raw data and convert it w/ ECUcontrol. It's just an endless stream of text. You can import it to an Excel spreadsheet but it's still not comprehensible. And there is no time line.
In Logworks, it's very easy to zoom in and out, smooth out peaks, make automated calculations and/or graph it in numerous ways. You can transform selected parts of a log to something that resembles a dyno run. Or have it calculate your next map. Or find problems with your engine or map that only surfaces at certain conditions.
My GPS plugin puts real speed (as in km/h) into the logs too
and it wouldn't be hard to have Logworks calculate what gear you're in at any point, as long as your clutch is not disengaged or slipping.Still, after lots of bug tracking and experimenting with this, it's a relief just going for a ride without any logging
This sounds just fantastic. I am struggling to get my LM-2 working. No reliable RPM readings so this will rock.
With this I guess that I just connect MYECU to loggworks and just record it live in loggworks.
How do you log during a ride? Do you bring a laptop? If so how do you keep it running? As soon as I close the cover my laptop stops working.
I guess that the biggest thing is to get it working on my computer. I am as good on computers as cats are at swimming. Might need a bit of help here.
Jocke..........
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With a little help from a friend we are very close to have this solved. All data from MyECU can be made available in Innovate's Logworks 3: TPS, RPM, sensors, pulsewidth, you name it. It's very simple really and the best would be if Cliff added the ActiveX stuff to ECUControl.
Possibly I'll make a proof of concept, just passing RPM and TPS and hand that source code over to Cliff. I have code for parsing most of the raw MyECU data but some things are still missing.
Logworks support will take logging to a new dimension. http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/forums/...read.php?t=4952
If it would be possible to connect MyECU to logworks or even better direct to a LM-2 how easy wouldnt life be then.
Keep us posted
Jocke.........
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Thx f sharing, punch!
And now, something completely different:
What type of sealant is best for waterproofing the case?
I have a P7/8 case and I guess I need to open after sealing it since I have no custom fittings f connections.
From factory there hardly seems to be any so how anal do you have to be?
Loctite/Plastic Padding preferred as easiest to find.
I have thoroughly laquered the PCB.
I would guess that Ducatis tribond would be perfect.
Jocke...........
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I always record. Then I analyse and adjust untill I get the A/F that I want. I guess that you can adjust it on the run at low power but not at high. Dont forget that you are on a very powerful Ducati so you better focus on the road as our bikes are very fast
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Green monster. Just a long shot. What is your pickup clearance? If it is a bit on the big side or if your pickups are week it might miss a few of the targets when she is running on the starter due to the low RPM and low induced voltage. Try to reduce the clerarance.
I am running my monster on 0,4mm even if the manual says 0.8mm from memory to avoid some low rpm hickups
Jocvke......
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I did Physics at Uni in the very distant past and whilst I dislike thermodynamis, I still remember a bit.
Cliff's air temp corrections are correct. the Ideal Gas Law referred to in the code - is PV = nRT, where P is pressure in atmospheres, V is volume, n can be treated as the amount of O2, R is a constant and T is temperature in Deg Kelvin, not Deg C.
Forget the R, so the amount of gas n is proportional to PxV/T Volume is fixed by the capacity of the cylinder, so n is proportional to P/T I.e if the temperature goes up, the gas expands and there are less molecules. Similarly if P goes up there are more molecules. This table below compares my calcs using Deg K to show that Cliff is spot on
Deg K 243 253 263 273 283 293 298 303 313 323
Deg -30 -20 -10 0 10 20 25 30 40 50
MyECU 24.7 19.8 15.2 11 7.1 3.4 1.7 0 -3.2 -6.2
Richard 24.7% 19.8% 15.2% 11.0% 7.1% 3.4% 1.7% 0% -3.2% -6.2%
Atmospheric pressure is just the weight of a column of air between the bike and the limit of earth's atmosphere which is being pulled by gravity. When you go up a tall mountain, there is less air above and therefore less pressure.
This is the pressure line in My15M MyECU Cfg Pressure=250mV,120mB,4200mV,1060mB
The change in O2 will be linear with pressure - eg double the pressure and you double the amount of O2, so you would need to double the fuel.
I dont say that it is any thing wrong with Cliffs stuff. The question is how does it work? What is the 0 pressure. I mean at what pressure does the press trim do zero trimming? Is it at 1013mb. How does it compensate? Is it actually a linear compensation? What is the max compensation? What happens when the press sensor breaks? How much does it reduce the fuel at 1000 meters or 2000 meters? As I have a Ultimap 59 on one of my bike and have played a lot with it I have a good idea how it works on that ECU and I need to understand if it is any difference and what the difference is. I dont like to do guess work. If I am going to be able to do a good map I need to understand what I am doing.
Thats all for now.
Jocke.......
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I was sitting making a base map for my bike and I was looking for the air pressure trim. I can not find it. Does any one know where it is located? I need to see how the compensation works to adjust the maps that I have to be MyECU compatible.
Jocke........
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A bit puzzled as I have a 907 w a P7 originally.
But I will focus on fuel priming.
How does it work on the standard WM in the ducs? I guess that if you give TomTom a ring he might have some advices on how the start fuel works on the 5,9 powered 900ss. The starting fuel on a 900SS with a 5,9 ECU must be very simular to a 907. After all it is a very simular engine.
Jocke.....
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What bike are we talking about? I assume one of the dukes. Will you be running closed loop?
It is a Ducati 851. Engine has been replaced with an upgraded 996 engine and the Wiring and ECU has been replaced with Ducati 916 stuff so the original P7 ECU has been replaced with a P16.
I will run open loop. I dont see any reason to run closed loop. It is just a question to do the mapping right as always and I dont see any difference in mapping a MyECU to any other ECU. It is just mapping after all.
I can ofcourse be wrong as always as I have no experience of running closed loop.
Here is a dynorun of my latest creation. It is a slightly tuned Monster S4. Here seen in a de-tuned version as I am running out of fuel over 8000RPM and had to detune a bit. It is most probably 5hk more to get on top when I put it back the cam timing to what I want and when I increase the fuel pressure
Jocke........
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There should have been a map in that email
I looked again and I found it. Sorry for that and thanks for the reminder.
Jocke...........
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I have posted my 907 map to vij.
Thanks.
Jocke.........
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Hi. I am new here.
I just got my software and I am waiting for my ECU. It looks like I did not get any map from Cliff or maybe I dont know how to find it. Does any one have any kind of map that they can send to me so I can play with the software. If so please send it to the following adress.
j_virdung@hotmail.com
Best regards and thanks in advance.
Jocke...........
V11 Ecu diagnostics and reprogramming
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Hi paul. I just found this on the forum and it looks like very nice. Good job and thanks for sharing. I have been playing around with my Ducatis for a long time using the ultimap U59 ECU and lately using Ducati diag to flash the MM 59m ECU:s. I am on the way to get a Guzzi and the only thing holding me up was the 15m ECU and the lack of possibilities to flash it. It looks like that might be sorted now and nothing can stop me from getting a Guzzi :-)
I have looking at this thread ( I am actually at work now so I can not download it or try it) and noticed that you are using tuner pro for map editing and you are supplying the XDF file for it.
Fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love tunerpro and the possibility to work with a bin file. In Ducati Diag they use there own file format meaning that tunerpro is a no no.
Thats all for now and thanks for the hard work and thanks for sharing.
Jocke.........