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    1 hour ago, GuzziMoto said:

    The friction between Marc and Pecco will be toxic. From a marketing perspective it is also not the best idea. If Marc wins the title on a Ducati it will be Marc that gets the credit, not Ducati. Also, while Marc is incredibly popular he is also incredibly unpopular. He tends to be very polarizing, people root for him or against him.

    Martin is faster. Marc has more race craft perhaps, but in outright speed Martin is faster.

    I truly don't get Martins obsession with being on the factory team. As far as I can tell there is no disadvantage to being on the Pramac team. You get the same factory bike and the same factory support it seems.

     

    first, i will agree with you, that i would think the vibe within in the team may very well be toxic, for Pecco.  he won't like having Marc in the team with him, that is a clear threat to his superiority, which he clearly had with the #1 plate.  however, he did not earn that up against a healthy Marc on a competitive motorbike.  he and the entire grid knows that, which is why they all want to rough him up so badly now.

    and yes, you are right on another point.  if Marc wins the title this year the credit will all go to him.  and it will be rightly deserved.  Martin has been on the Desmosedici for 4 years now, Bagnaia for 6.  Marc for 5 race weekends, on the year old machine, on the third tier support team.  and here is where i differ with you on the opinion of Martin being faster.  Marc has three times, in two separate weekends, now caught the top two boys on Factory bikes coming from way back.  and has passed each to beat both.  and only not won by 3/10ths of a second from each rider.  that makes Marc the faster rider.

    3. it may seem that Martin has the exact same situation as Pecco, but it is not.  the bike is not as up to date, and the amount of technicians is significantly less.  that is why Martin wants to be on the Factory team.  Pramac leases their bikes from Ducati, at a cost of around $2 million per machine.  their team budget is significantly less, and the updates don't come as quick.  even slower for VR46 and Gresini...
     

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    For Sale- 2003 V11 LeMans Rosso Corse- $9000 or offer

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    25 minutes ago, LowRyter said:

    These bikes haven't been getting any cheaper for well maintained models. 

    no offence to anyone, but these bikes don't pull much.  i saw a Tenni take weeks to sell at $4,000 last year.  and i've seen Nero Corsa's for sale for a very long time at $6,000, and are still available.  i've also seen many non-top tier V11's for sale for $4,000 for many months and counting...

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