Paul Minnaert Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 A german scura owner didn't trust his clutch any longer after 20.000km. He decided to let the dealer mount a new 2 plate clutch. The dealer send the alu flywheel to mandello factory to have it checked. And guess what? It had small fractures already. So was a matter of time before it would die the bike( and more?). It seems that they are thinking about recalling a series of singleplate clutches, not all, because not all should be affected. Maybe that's why the problem isnt in the USA, they got another series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nogbad Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Basically then, there are some that are OK, and some that are eventually going to explode, but no means of knowing at present which type you have? I'm glad I have a 2 plater!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldini Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 ....It seems that they are thinking about recalling a series of singleplate clutches, not all, because not all should be affected. ... Paul, Thanks for this - if you hear anything more on it please let us know. Unsurprisingly I've had no joy with getting info out of dealers or MG customer services. KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soloNH Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 So tell me is the flywheel made out of aluminum on the Scura? All the pictures I've seen they look like steel. What gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldini Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 ...is the flywheel made out of aluminum on the Scura?... yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeBenGuzzi Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Not just in the EU I've heard of chaps in the USofA with exploding clutches. Don't know how many on this forum but one personaly around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Minnaert Posted February 21, 2006 Author Share Posted February 21, 2006 this is one, here is what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballacraine Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Thanks for the info, Paul...... I wonder how much longer they are going to think about it..... Wait 'till some poor sod is maimed or killed, I suppose! I got zero response from Guzzi other than an acknowledgement of my contact..... Nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafman60 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 My 2 cents worth on Scura clutches. I think you guys are overreacting. I know, the poor blokes with busted clutches feel a right to bitch but, sheeze, how many overall have exploded?? How many 2 plates go out?? For me, the Scura clutch is the best performing Guzzi clutch Ive had. Hooks up great and very light pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stogieBill Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Hey leafman, How many miles have you got on your Scura? TIA, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nogbad Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 My 2 cents worth on Scura clutches. I think you guys are overreacting. I know, the poor blokes with busted clutches feel a right to bitch but, sheeze, how many overall have exploded?? How many 2 plates go out?? For me, the Scura clutch is the best performing Guzzi clutch Ive had. Hooks up great and very light pull. 79735[/snapback] Don't be complacent. With fatigue failure like that in the picture it isn't if, it's when. If you treat your clutch gently and do a low mileage it takes longer for the cracks to initiate and grow. Maybe so long that you won't even have a problem in your ownership. IMHO every clutch unit of that design will let go eventually. If Scura's were fitted with clutches from different manufacturers the problem may only afflict one particular type, but which one have you got and how do you find out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballacraine Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 As I have said on another thread..... I like the clutch action and performance too, but.........BIG BUT..... It is not even so much that the thing fails, it is the dramatic and potentially catastrophic nature of the way it is likely to let go, that is the thing that is making me change the assembly prior to failure. As Nog and others (myself included) have said this grenading issue is likely to be a 'when' rather than an 'if' I really wish they would bite the bullet on this...do the right thing and do a recall, before some poor bugger is maimed or killed! Nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nogbad Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I really wish they would bite the bullet on this...do the right thing and do a recall, before some poor bugger is maimed or killed! Nige. 79786[/snapback] Maybe they fitted 2 types, and know that only the minority type is affected, but have no means of knowing which bikes went out with the bad clutches. Faced with a recall of all single plate bikes where most of them will simply be stripped to find the OK clutch could be a precaution too far for the bean counters. Maybe they have had a risk analyst work out the cost of compensating a dead Guzzisti's family and the likelihood of a grenading clutch killing the rider and concluded that it's cheapest by a mile to deny everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballacraine Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Maybe they fitted 2 types, and know that only the minority type is affected, but have no means of knowing which bikes went out with the bad clutches. Faced with a recall of all single plate bikes where most of them will simply be stripped to find the OK clutch could be a precaution too far for the bean counters. Maybe they have had a risk analyst work out the cost of compensating a dead Guzzisti's family and the likelihood of a grenading clutch killing the rider and concluded that it's cheapest by a mile to deny everything! 79799[/snapback] This is a downbeat, but unfortunately probably very accurate assessment! Nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macguzzi Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 It occurs to me that is not the clutch that is fault here but the flywheel, the pictures I have seen so far all look the same the flywheel bolt holes and center parting company with the crank. Any thoughts welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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