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Does an 02 lemans tank fit a 2000 greenie? Wondering if I want to “practice” the paint process on an old tank, for the bead/material blast through the paint match process, before I do it on the existing green tank.
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3 hours ago, docc said:
Commonly, the vent from the nipple under the fuel tank can be routed, or joined, with the overflow (which should be inspected for the troublesome one-way valve) behind the starter to below the gearbox. Common vacuum line is adequate. The 1/2” fuel line is unnecessary.
The vacuum taps on the intake can be capped. Silicone caps are preferred. Rubber caps should be inspected and replaced as they dry, crack and loosen.
The cad plated bracket that holds the bottom discharge hoses is through-bolted into the gearbox. Prepare for the fluid when this bolt comes out!
Once the whole shebang is properly bagged and labeled for your parts pile, you can use the tool tray for, er well: tools!
Thx docc- u jump-started my slow but decent memory, regarding the “joining of the streams”.
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2 hours ago, docc said:
Yep. Along with twenty feet of 1/2 fuel line. No, really: twenty. The whole mess weighs five pounds.
Gonna be fun getting her the way you want. It will be interesting to hear what your think of the nuances between the RedFrame and the LongFrame.
Ah, lovely. Is the usual “customization” to use a portion of the existing fuel line in its current position/routing for straight through vent, or do folks reroute the vent line if there’s that much of it?
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6 hours ago, po18guy said:
Nice! Clear coat? Perfect timing for the Coppa Italia makeover!
(Smile) ha! When I first saw a greenie many years ago, I wondered who would pay for such a color. But then I developed a “taste” for them.... gonna definitely keep her green. Must have been an Irishman in Mandello at some point, leaving Ireland to sneak in for the wine, pasta, sunshine, and “meccanica”.... I would.
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Bought a greenie. Or almost did... seller forgot the title, so bike is in our hangar, and we’ll do a money and title swap next week to finish things up.
Very low miles, runs decent, but needs lots of little stuff, and the big thing (that I know of) is the clear coat coming off the tank. Right side valve cover leaking oil. He converted to pods. Lots of light surface corrosion. Etc.any wise words on things I should know about the red frame, vs my (2) longer frame Lemans? I think it’s mostly all laid out well enough in the pinned topic that compares the models...
under the seat are two black cylinders with fuel lines. Are those of charcoal cannisters? Just noticed them and didn’t take the time to trace the lines to confirm.
will likely make this a project for next winter, to thoroughly go through the greenie.
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Appreciate that Phil.
But wait, you have an ST2? I knew you had the 1000SS, but just saw the ST2 noted there.
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Agreed. Common in the story of my life, I often don’t see the best stuff where I live until I move away. Had to leave Oregon for 15 yrs before I recognized a lot of the great things in Oregon, and left Santa Clarita before I realized how great those LP national forest roads were. Like an old country song about needing to get away from home...
Red is up on the lift at home, waiting patiently for me to get back there to grease/lube/service her up. And maybe she’s hearing rumor of a greenie coming into the harem.
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6 hours ago, Lucky Phil said:
You'll need to bead blast all the paint off and dry the tank out then preferable line the inside. The bead blasting leaves a really good finish for paint to adhere to but there are plastic primers for the task. Every car bumper is plastic these days. Its a pointless exercise patching a tank on a motorcycle as by the time you prep the tank for blending you've painted most of it anyway.
Personally I can't see a good painter having an issue matching the paint. I've got a belly pan and several side covers that have been re painted and they are all a very good match.
Ciao
Excellent. That’s more or less what I figured, that it’s a matter of either minor touch up, or full repaint.
Have done the Caswell (sp?) lining on other tanks in the past, so assuming that’s a fine way to go. And know a couple decent sources for bead blasting. But what remains is the question of whether I’d spray it myself. Comfortable enough spraying, but usually with a couple coats of same paint then some clear coats. If it’s that ER4 paint noted, then I may do it, but if it’s layered colors I’d be hesitant. Have a new HVLP sprayer to in theory replace my trusty but very old traditional Devilbis spray gun, but don’t have experience with that HVLP gun yet. -
3 hours ago, droydx said:
Take HWY 33 from Ojai, and cross over through the mountains near Ozena fire station....Pine Mountain intersection and then down to New Cuyama and out to the coast. I used to work at Rose Valley near the top of the mountains for the Forest Service on a Helicopter crew and that was a daily commute. Its a great road, often used to film car and motorcycle adverts.
Helicopter crew for FS.... fire crew? I’ll be at Lancaster for our spring training for LAT crews late March, and that’s my excuse to be down there. Lived in Santa Clarita for a short while about 25yrs ago, so based on your advice maybe it’ll shoot over from Lancaster, do a fast cruise down memory lane of where we lived, then out 126 and up 33 from ojai. hate to bypass that Frazier park and pine mountain area coming out from Gorman/Lebec.... but a change would be good.
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I haven’t seen the tank in person yet, but are we asserting here that the bubbling may be from an issue that’s more “evil” than just some surface issues, like maybe ethanol or something along those lines that could be compromising the tank from the inside?
In short, should I be more deeply concerned about paint issues on one of these tanks?
the machine has a lot of surface corrosion, mostly cosmetic from the pics, but it’s very low miles and price seems attractive, so am leaning toward taking the chance with it. -
Some beautiful, great riding over there (los Padres NF). Hoping to swing through that area in early april on my way north, but not sure yet.
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Anyone used the newer pro version of rever? Combo of offline maps, butler map views, easier saved routes, and then some things which may or may not prove to be of value (3D views, etc), seems it might stand out from the crowd of not-so-great map apps.
I hate recurring charges, but $4/mo can be palatable for the right thing... I’ll probably try this pro version on the free trial.
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Hmm. Sounds slightly less precise with some of the techniques and adjectives used, but given that it’s to match a 20+ yr old faded color, this could be good.
since the tank is the overwhelming majority of the visible paint color that’s seen, I should have a little more leeway, vs trying to find something for touch up. But of course if the touch up happens to be really dialed in, I could avoid the repaint, which would be a home run, but I’m not holding my breath. My personal spray technique and skills would be fine for any typical white paint, and maybe an “ER4” single color, but multi layered paints mean I’d likely want to farm-out the work to someone more gifted and/or experienced.
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Docc, you note the green paint color match here.... I’m still poking around searching the forum, but is there knowledge on a good paint code option to match the green? Trying to figure out how hard it will be to repaint just the tank on a greenie.
Looks like the ER4 may be well close enough to where I could paint the whole tank and end up with a winner. -
My issue is just that I’m looking at buying a greenie from a guy locally, through a strange fluke of fate, but it’s got bubbling paint on the tank. Guessing it’s from ethanol, but don’t know, just know that it will need attention. So, if I repaint the whole tank, will I be chasing the wind to try and find a good green match, or will I need to repaint all the green stuff to achieve decent match?
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On 5/8/2017 at 7:03 PM, docc said:
AFAIK, there is no designation in the VIN or tag on the V11 that declares the original color.
Now, getting the V11Green correct is another matter. Word is, the code is cracked, though . . .
Pretty cool seeing my Sport parked on the Cherohala in V11Green! Thanks for the cheap thrill, swooshdave!
Docc, you note the green paint color match here.... I’m still poking around searching the forum, but is there knowledge on a good paint code option to match the green? Trying to figure out how hard it will be to repaint just the tank on a greenie.
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I find that either running the glow plug cycle a couple times first, or praying the rosary 3 times, works better for rebooting the Zumo GPS.
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many thanks Phil.
then will grab the oil, find my special grease gun fitting, and get that italian tail end ready for summer.
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Was perusing some of this before heading out to shop one of these days soon to do the rear drive fluid on Red, as i'm thinking its time. no one seems to mention Richardsons notation that you raise the rear of the bike (block of wood) so the swingarm is level, as in horizontal to the ground, in addition the bike being level/upright. pretty sure thats what i did a few years ago on Goldie, but don't trust my memory. between my fuzzy memory, and then maybe some common sense, it does seem like the way to go, to get that middle rear plug at the right level (bike vertical, and swing arm horizontal), but help me stay on the straight & narrow path.....
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18 hours ago, Lucky Phil said:
Is that $189usd for a PAIR? Gulp. Put 2 pair on a V11 Sport and you've got about 15% of the value of the bike right there.
Ciao
The set shown is for just the front, so yes, but they are the mirror & signal combined setup.
Very true that a very acceptable upgrade can be done for way cheaper, so that’s certainly part of the consideration. I’ve used the relatively common wedge shaped LED’s on multiple other bikes, purchased off Amazon or some other source for cheap (I think i still have another set in the shop somewhere), with wiring and other parts obtained separately, and those all turned out great for a fraction of the cost. But not quite as nice, and to Footgooses point, the correct resistor setup doesn’t seem as straightforward on the V11. That said, maybe this “plug and play” option from moto science, with the correct resistors, isn’t as sorted as they imply.
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I think someone in the group here has used the moto science signals and/or mirrors? If so, any comments? Thinking of messing with “upgrading” the stock signals. I’ve seen a few good options on this forum, including some very cool setups that I’ve been thinking about, but just saw these as being semi-targeted at the V11, so was eye-balling them too:
It’s all vanity, as what i have works fine. I’ve just never loved the large, plastic stock units, and since this winter i have less “normal” work to do on the bike, i may indulge myself with something like a signal and mirror upgrade/change. This particular set seems to stay within the general look of the stock pieces, but arguably cleans it up a bit. I used this company for mirror upgrades on my son’s Gran Canyon, and was very pleased with the results of that simple project (easy thrills... insert money into process, receive parts, bolt-on, smile)
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The left vs right turn dominance is amusingly interesting... lots of evidence of it everywhere.
While I’d want to think the issue here is swingarm or something like that, the wear seems too far off center to be from some kind of misalignment. Could certainly be totally wrong, but I’d think the kind of misalignment one might have from a wonky swingarm or bearing would result in a wear line just slightly off center. Anything else you’d think would be noticeable when riding straight down the freeway. And I’d imagine that if the rear was that far out of whack, you might see something up on front tire as well, as the body-in-motion would need to compensate to keep things tracking straight? Maybe not... gotta think on that. Maybe since the front has the lateral pivot (steering head) that may not be true.
But who knows.... none of the theories are easy pills to swallow. I guess just buy another tire, check alignment and basic swingarm “plumb & square”, then ride on!-
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46 minutes ago, swooshdave said:
Recently all I've been doing is pushing the Guzzi out of the way so I could work on the other bikes. I still manage to sneak out for a ride the other day between rain showers.
Good man Dave. I just don’t have the heart to do the 1/2 mile of gravel road between me and the tarmac with the goose, since the gravel/dirt/lignan mix they use for less dust in summer turns into super-glue mud in winter.... don’t want to be trying to scrub that off the MG.
I used to ride year-round on my old oil head, and when i sold it a few years ago it had baked-in “stuff” from the winter road here in many crevasses that made it hard to really clean up for selling.
Need to get out to the shop soon and do the winter mx on the MG, as spring is coming! Do the oils, and then working out why (what little part is missing or messed up) the red V11 has a goofy, loose attach point for the fairing, though it looks all in order with just a quick inspection.
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and most of us are jealous of more than just the bike... Phil's reaping the benefits of residing in a great part of the southern Hemisphere in February:
Melbourne, sunny and 91 tomorrow, and saturday around 70 and sunny. My house for thursday shows high of 34 in snow, low of 23. Then cold rain next week.
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Gratuitous Pics of Girls + Guzzi
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not enough caffeine in me yet, but i'm thinking 1000 Lire back then would have been closer to $1.50 (600-700 Lire per dollar in 70's?), and gas was likely down around .30 cents/gal (?), so she probably got a decent top-up for the top-off....