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    Setting Proper Sag

    in Technical Topics

    Posted

    I have been riding for 30 years. It's not about learning to ride, it's about enjoying the experience. Before setting sag properly my bike felt a bit 'reluctant' to turn. Kind of like it just wanted to stand back up instead of track at the angle I placed it into. After setting sag properly it really transformed the bike. Now it stears in a more neutral fashion and just stays were I put it. In my case it wasn't about learning to ride. It was about learning something about suspension that I only wished I learned a long time ago.

     

    For anyone out there who isn't happy with the way their bike is handling this may be (maybe not) a very simple fix.

     

    You must think yourself a very splendid rider I am guessing? Guys like Hayden and Rossi are really great riders and they spend an amazing amount of time every week setting up suspension on their race bikes. I can only guess that they also have their personal machines set up to their liking also.

    Same goes for brakes tires etc.

     

     

    :2c: splended maybe the wrong description. above average will do. i guess like me you hadn't heard of sag setting until recent times! too stiff or too soft would have been it previous. 30 years riding how many times would you have changed springs in this time..[ or did you do some road racing] my point was all this talk of infinite fine adjustment theories. i have been riding 38 years and it's only the last three years that i've had adjustment other than rear spring tension. now the problem was allways ground clearance. i'm not knocking anyone trying to improve the handling of their bike, far from it. ''but'' when an endless discussion

    supposedly in reply to a question of ''my v11 doesn't like cornering'' i felt the discussion became BS. AND my reply was not to you or most others on this forum! :D:bike:

    Making a Cushier Cush Drive

    in Technical Topics

    Posted

    now seriously! :D just going from experience with poly versus rubber in shackle bushings in land cruisers. the rubbers were around 25% of the cost, and the polys were lucky to get twice the milage, but the rubbers were easier to replace, made for a smoother and quiter ride! the rubbers tended to wear more than compress and distort so were easier to remove. so on the whole it was better for me to replace rubber every year than poly every two. but than again this is just my experience as a simple country boy with shithouse keyboard skills. yours truly gazza. :drink:

    ps. the rubbers did only come in black!

    How many miles *you* got?

    in 24/7 V11

    Posted

    57000km.

    still original speedo cable, clutch cable, and all electrics bar indicator relay. two rear wheel bearings replaced, brake pads replaced 50000k + regular maintenance intervals of 5k-6k usualy oil change using full synthetic, filter changed every second oil change when tappets are checked but only ever made three adjustments! bought new in 2000 and being a 1998 model. costs of owning has only been fuel, tyres, rego and several chains :homer: sorry wrong forum! now back to mz riders . com :grin:

    32mpg? You gotta be kidding me!

    in Technical Topics

    Posted

    You'd have to be talking about Mark Gilmore's bike wouldn't you? There can't be many Guzzis in Kempsey. Probably just the 2 of you.

     

    If so, its not a PC its my My15M.

     

    If its not Mark ( gawd 3 guzzis in kempsey? ) then you might want to track him down.

     

    yes! you're right cliff, it's marks bike he's refering to. keep in mind he is very old.

    and localy we do suspect some early onset of oldztimers. :D ''arn't all guzzi riders'old or a bit''

    MOTO GP

    in Special place for banter and conversation

    Posted

    brave ride by melandri to finish third with his injurys, he had to be helped up the steps to the podium!

    also must mention wests effort finishing 7th, also great ride by rl heyden.

    not an exciting race to watch, but excellent ride by casey and chris.. :thumbsup:

     

    announced at laguna that melandri will join the ducati team next season possibly retaining caperossi for a three bike team!

    MOTO GP

    in Special place for banter and conversation

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    it's great having two aus riders in first two positions, i'd like to see it finish that way. but i see this as a difficult one, so to me it could be one of at least seven to stand on the top step. bring it on! :bier:

    at least this one i can watch in the morning and not have to stay up till middle of the night.

    Setting Proper Sag

    in Technical Topics

    Posted

    Now let me see if I've got this straight. <_>

     

    REAL RIDERS have ABILITY and CONTROL! They don't NEED to understand anything about setting up suspension. They just ride it!

     

    Forget all the adjustments and settings. They don't do anything anyway.

     

    If a bike wallows, weaves, head-shakes, wobbles, washes out, bottoms, runs wide, or pogo's off the road out of holes, the rider is a spineless d!ckweed and doesn't know how to ride.

     

    Anyone who wastes their time fiddling with numbers, swapping springs and spacers is an idiot.

     

    A bike's handling capability is rightfully determined by the sloppiest suspension settings that ignorance and neglect can provide.

     

    Dimwits who fiddle with their suspensions because they don't know how to ride are attempting to hide their inadequacy by trying to impress others with meaningless drivel.

     

    Have I got it right now, Forrest? :lol::whistle:

     

    well i'd say if the bike is wallowing shaking its head running wide and pogoing off bumps. it has a far greater problem than spring rate or sag adjustment. this would be the last thing to examine. far more important are compression and rebound. now you may believe you can help someone with a handling problem using the internet and 275k words. but in reality it can't be done. i'm sure like many others i regularly load up my bike with an extra 20/30 kilo of gear and head off on a trip, now most often i make no adjustment for this extra weight if anything possibly a few extra cliks on compression. now guess what, the bike handles fine. now all the finicky sag adjustments ''are out the window'' with the added weight! and also you may give your figures for your compression and rebound settings to another rider of same weight and same bike..will it be perfect for them. now do all your settings on your favourite piece of road with all it's imperfections at based on a speed of 60-70 mph now you think you have it perfect. now pass back along the same section at 80-100 mph. my point is simply! there is no perfect setting, unless maybe set for one section as on the track. and my point of just ride it! having ridden ridgid,plunger,girder,to fully adjustable, it does get back to riding it through or forever fiddling. :luigi:

     

    Setting Proper Sag

    in Technical Topics

    Posted

    Who is making excuses?

    Few of us are out racing.

    But alot of us are trying to help people better set up their V11s.

    Why don't you go tell slow kitty to forget all about why the Guzzi handles like crap and to go learn to ride?

    Would that be a responsible thing to do?

     

     

    because it's long gone past answering slowkittys question, which is obviously not just a sag setting. and is once again you and ratchit trying to outdo each other with your theories. surely you's must both be aspiring politicians to waffle on so long without any real substance. :2c: i hope slowkitty can find an answer, but it won't be from all that crap!

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