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Some of what you describe is 'normal', some isn't.
The clutch is noisy when engaged in neutral. When I first got my Scura I thought it had excessive driveline lash too. I got used to that in time.
The pinking when acccelerating under load is a problem that some V11's have (mine included.) I have not found a completely effective solution to that, but I haven't given up either. I found that fitting a Power Commander and richening up the mixture helped a little bit but in my mind it's not the complete answer. If/when I get my solution, rest assured I'll be posting it here.
The transmission should be a dream. The new 6 speed's shifting was the deciding factor for me to get a new Guzzi. A few people have traced down shifting problems to the external shift linkage binding or being in need of a little lube. Your Scura should not be difficult to shift.
Let us know what your dealer says.
John
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What model mounts and bags are those?
Yhe rack is Givi's Wingrack. I also got the mounting kit and something called the stabilization kit too. I'm not certain I needed the stabilization kit. I dumped all the little hardware pieces together when I was doing it and I have quite a bit left over. A craftier fabricator than I could get just the wing rack and bags and make the rest. The bag mounts are reversed from what Givi had intended. What is the upper front of the mount on the bike is supposed to be pointed towards the rear for the rack option to bolt to. When I mounted it that way it stuck straight out just as the tailsection started tapering.
The bags are the 41 liter Monokey. They open from the side like proper huge bags with a key and there's a small flip top opening at the top of the bag that uses a combination lock. I'm surprised how much I like the little flip top door. Each bag come with 2 keys and if you order the bags inpairs they come keyed alike so you end up with 4 keys. I loose things, I like spares.
I also had to move the turnsignals from the fender to the side of the license plate light to clear the bags. I just removed the light housing and drilled a couple of holes similar to ther original mounts and it bolted right up.
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The only thing I don't like is the exhaust hangar extensions that seem a bit less well crafted than the rest of the system
I'll be the first to agree with you on that one. That's part of an earlier modification. If you look closely at the 3rd picture (where you can see my cheesy hanger extension) you'll notice that the rear subframe doesn't bolt directly to the porkchop. In an effort to make the bike a little more comfortable for both my wife and myself, I made a little bracket to raise the tailsection of the bike leaving the exhaust and passenger pegs where they were to get a bit more leg room for the passenger. If you look at the first pic you'll notice that the tail section and exhaust cans run about parallel to each other now.
Overall it works pretty well. The passenger gets about 1 1/2 inches more legroom. I think I get about half that. The down side is the driver section of the seat slopes forward just a bit too much. I keep telling myself I'll take the cover off and put a small wedge of foam in there to counteract it.
The local hardware store when I was doing this didn't have plated metric allen bolts which is why that frame bolt is rusting. I haven't yet made it out to get a proper fastener yet.
I guess I have lots of tidying up to do.
... and ... those bags are HUGE I think personally I would have opted for the next size down But to each his own. My friend had the same boats on his VFRBoats!! That's it. They're an emergency flotation device in case of water landing..
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I could have been tempted to have a spare tail section
I thought about picking up a 'donor' tail section to cut, but I decided I didn't need more bike bits taking up valuable space in the basement. Besides I change too much stuff on my bikes. They'll never be collectable once I get my hands on them.
I love the bags. 2 helmets can fit in one bag. Of course seeing as you can't use the passenger pegs with the bags on, I guess that point is moot.
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I just got finished moutning Givi's on my Scura. Though I'm sure my solution isn't for everybody, it'perfect for me.
Since my wife has made it clear that sitting on the back of my bike for 600 miles in a day isn't her idea of fun I mounted the bags further forward than typical. Though the passenger pegs can be folded out when the bags are on, a passenger would have a hard time getting even their heel on it. Also I didn't like how the buldges on the sides of the tailpiece cause the mountings to have to sit very far out from the bike. I cut the tail section to allow the brackets to fit much closer in. There's still 1 1/2 inches that the brackets could move further in before hitting the subframe but then I'd have to cut a huge section of the tailpiece for the bags to clear. Here are some pics...
And now with the bags.
As you can see, it's still pretty wide, but at least they dont extend very far past the end of the bike. I also like that the bags are a reasonable match for the styling of the bike.
I don't know if it's ideal, but it works for me!
Cheers!
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I'm in the same position you are. I've gotten them close to where I want them with the universal kit but now I need to do some minor tweeks and make the final mounting brackets myself. I'm sure most people won't like my final solution because I'm going to cut into the tail section so I can bring the mounting brackets inboard a bit.
I'll post some pics when it's done. It's going to be huuuuuuuge.
What bags did you get? I got the 41 l monokey.
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Yes, thanks. It's always nice to have some support.
I guess time will tell us for sure.
As a side note, these Guzzi's sure are built like tanks. Somebody backed over the Scura yesterday. It was backed into from the right side and it pivoted over the sidestand which dug a nice hole in the soft asphalt. The clutch lever broke and the bars are bent a wee bit but that seems to be the extent of the damage. It looks like the his bumper pushed on the cylinder head.
He's taking care of everything so in the end no real harm done.
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I've got a new wrinkle for us single plate clutch sport guys (Rosso, Scura, etc.) My clutch has been no problem and had the standard (for us) noisy in neutral with clutch out since new. The bike has a little more than 20K miles on it and over a few weeks the clutch got quiet in neutral. I actually like it quiet but with the occasional Scura clutch exposion stories on these forums it's got me just a wee bit concerned. If I pull the clutch in a little the noise appears and if I pull it in all the way it goes away like it always did.
Anybody else out there have that many miles on their single plate Sport clutch?
I'm telling myself it worn off clutch material cushioning the bits that used to rattle. That sounds good, right?
Any thoughts you folk have to offer would be appreciated.
Thanks,
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Yikes! Sorry to hear about your problems.
I'm 2 days outside of my warranty with 20K on the bike. So far the clutch has given me no reason to worry. I'll go on thinking that and tell myself that 20K miles is enough for any problems to show up..
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I put EBC pads (I think they were the HH variety.) I know they are the higher performance 'flavor' of the EBC pads. It does seem to bite more than stock though I was cautioned by my parts guy that they are harder on the rotors than the standard compound. I like em a lot, though they make much more noise when applying the brakes. Not a brake squeal but a 'shhhhhh' sound.
I think I've had them for 5 or 6K miles and they still have plenty of meat left on them.
I'd buy em again.
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My Scura broke a spring a while back, probably around 10k miles. I'm just under 20k now. So far so good. If the boss being too big is the answer, that'd make me a happy guy. My warranty runs out in a couple of weeks and if it does break again at least I have something more to do than just replace the spring and wait for it to happen again.
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I've got alumunum Pro-Taper style bars on my Scura. I used aftermarket bar mounts (from a company named TAG.) They're available in the USA from Parts Unlimited (distributor, no retail) so any shop can order them up for you. They come with 3 differing heights. You'll want to get the tallest one or the bars will foul on the tops of the fork tubes.
With some creative routing and also trimming the plastic shrouds that route the cables and wiring under the tank I was able to reuse all the original hoses. Tag also makes mounts for standard 7/8" bars if you don't like the fat ones. If I recall the mounts are about $45 USD plus whatever the bars you decide on cost.
This also helped a bit with vibration too. Overall a nice thing to do, in my book.
I love my Scura. Best of luck to you with yours.
John
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Keith,
I'm up at about 19,500 but I'm on my BMW these days. I blew another fork seal and am waiting for the seals to come in from Ohlins. My local (non Guzzi) shop sells Aprillia so I went in there thinking they might have them in stock since so many Aprillia's have Ohlins on them. They do have them but they cost $75.00 USD a pair. I ordered the selas at the same shop from Ohlins and they're something like $30. Only now I have to wait until they come in.
It's the price I pay for being a cheap bastard.
This is the second time I've blown that seal (right side) when I replaced it before I didn't see anything wrong on the tube. I sure hope it's not nicked. I'm guessing they cost a bit.
John
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Hi Keith,
I guess the response to your original query is no. I haven't gone beyond a spring and knob twiddling on mine. It seems like all I've been doing is commuting on the thing anyways and the stock Ohlins seems capable for that.
I sure hope to do some real riding sometime soon.
John Koester
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Al,
You are a brave man sir. I am also quite annoyed at that 'unobtainable' fuel but I'm not ready to follow you just yet. I have other plans for my bike, I'm not certain when I'll have the time required to deal with it but when the time comes I'll happily add my experiences to your own.
John
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I had mine replaced under waranty. Both bushings were pretty well shot. If I recall the dealer said the replacement rod was something like $175 USD. If/when they go out again I'm going to have somebody machine some new ones out of delrin. Those ought to outlast the bike.
Cheers.
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I put a 170 on the back of my Scura (5.5' rim) and I love it. the bike turns much more responsively.
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I thought about replacing the bushings with spherical bearings as well. I doubt it makes too much difference either way. I know the Daytona's used bearings there. Maybe Delrin has some (very) slight amount of give for dampening shock during on/off throttle transitions? I don't know.
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Yup, that was me. Both bushings were worn by the time I noticed it. I had heard a faint click noise when I transitioned from on to off throttle under very light load for quite some time. I was worried it was something in my clutch I never checked the rear end. Once that was replaced the noise went away.
I've got probably 4 or so thousand miles on the new one and it's just fine. It seems silly that Guzzi won't sell you the bushings which could be easily replaced. If I recall it's about $170 for the arm. Guzzi paid for it so I don't remember.
If it goes out again (post warranty) I'm going to have some bushings made out of delron and replace them myself.
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I've got 17K miles on my Scura clutch and have had no problems (well with the clutch at least).
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If I'm doing 83 at 5000 rpms in the top gear, I'm assuming this bike won't do more than about 105 mph?
I'm not certain how you got to that number. The way I figure it 83 divided by 5 equals 16.6 MPH per thousand RPM. 16.6 times 8 gets you 132.8 MPH. Your bike won't do that but I think it ought to be good for something over 120. Also, my speedo is a bit optimistic. It's seen over 130, but I don't believe it.
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Racers do it all the time. I first found this out after getting Tivo for the Television. I noticed the riders never used the clutches when going through the gears on the straightaways.
My question is what benefit do you get for doing this? Racers don't want to lose a fraction of a second in acceleration. They have ignition cut-outs that are hooked up to the shifter to momentarily kill the ignition while upshifting. They can keep the throttle pinned and just work to shifter to go up though their gears.
They also have a team of mechanics constantly rebuilding their motors and trannys and a boatload of spares following them around where ever they go.
I, of course am not really in a position to comment seeing as wheelies serve no true 'function' , cause increased strain on mechanical bits, an so on yet you might be ablke to find a person or two who has seen me do them..
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However, not to be beaten (yet), perhaps what is required is an internal pipe on the return feed that favors the LHS of the tank. It would work as normal until the division starts when the tide goes out, at which point the fuel would be returned exclusively to the LHS and available for the supply pipe.
That was along the lines of what I was thinking as well but I have so many projects going on right now that involve bikes that either don't run or don't run very well that I'm thinking it'll be quite some time before I get around to something like this.
If you figure it out, let us know..
johnk
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So if you are running low on fuel, just keep popping wheelies!
That works for me..
Does (Rear Tire) Size Matter
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I've got a Scura with the 5.5 inch rim and I loved the change by going to a 170 on the rear (Pirelli diablo's if anybody cares.)
Nice and nimble but still stable. I highly recommend it.