V11 Bevel boxes

[Murray]

Cut and pasted in entirerty form the AGIOR mailing list. Mr Roper is a Guzzi mechanic and is kind enough to share his knoledge often quiet extenisvly about the products from Mondello sp?

 

 

"Just a word of warning for anyone with a new V11. Most dealers seem to be

unaware that the splines on the rear wheel and bevelbox need greasing to

prevent rapid wear. The factory doesn't, and never has, greased these

splines on assembly. I don't know why? I'd guess for cosmetic reasons though

so that if there is any excess it doesn't drip out or get flung onto the

wheels when the bike is new but that is by the by.

 

On the Calis and earlier bikes the worst that could happen is that you'd

quickly wear out the splines in the crownwheel carrier and on the cush drive

plate. While this would be a pain to fix and fairly expensive it pales into

insignificance next to the problem this will cause on a V11!!! On these

boxes the splined bit in the bevelbox is integral to crownwheel!!!! It's a

single part, crownwheel and splined centre, which means if your splines are

rooted you'll be up for not just the centre but a complete crownwheel and

pinion!!!!!!

 

Not only are these only available ex-factory but given that it is a complex

bit of machining I *hate* to think how much a CW&P set would cost but I'd

want to be sitting down before I asked!!!!!!! Preferably with a large glass

of something strong in my hand!!!! I'd hazard a guess that you wouldn't get

much change out of $2,000AU.

 

Just to put the icing on the cake the larger of the two pinion bearings in

the new box is a *special* combined ball and taper roller also available

only ex-factory. This little beauty retails for $500AU on its own!!!!!!!

 

Look after those bevelboxes boys and girls!!!!!!!!!!

 

Pete."

 

Has anyone esle come across this found it a problem etc etc?

 

Murray

[al_roethlisberger]

Perhaps a dumb question, but is there any way to tell if they have/haven't been greased without removing the wheel?

 

Just curious...

 

al

[Janusz]

No, Al.

[al_roethlisberger]

..that's what I suspected

 

al

[Gio]

I recall from one of my early "in-warranty" service visits that the splines in my Y2K V11S bevel box were found to be dry (this was one candidate for the rear-end howl)...so I would check yours if you haven't done already.

 

Rear tire changes are a good opportunity to keep an eye on this subsequently as the wheel is out anyway.

 

Gio

[RichMaund]

I brought my bike home in the crate over two years ago and then disassembled it to see what Guzzi was mucking up lately. True to their factory tradition, all that stuff was dry as a bone. Pivot bolts, swing arm bearings, splines, you name it. Even the cush drive was grease free. They red Loctited the damned fasteners, but couldn't be bothered to grease anything.

Guzzi tends to operate on tradition, habit and inertia. This is what you have to expect from them and correct it yourself when the bike is new!

Much like Ural's made in the 1990's, they are just kit bikes assembled by drunks as a courtesy to ensure all the parts are there. It's up to the owner to put it back into kit form and then build it correctly.

Sort of a Italian made Bradley GT!

Anyone remember those?

[dlaing]

I wish Toyota built motorcycles!

I am not sure I have the energy to lube everything...

Anyway, I had the energy for a google search and came up with this:

http://217.115.144.61/~michael/www.montecr...m/maintain.html