Guest SoCalDon Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I just installed the Moto Spezial Deep V Sump. The Stock Oil Filter really sticks out. Most guys replace the Oil filter every other oil change. Since its outside now, I should be able to put a smaller filter on, and change it every oil change. Has anyone using the Deep V Sump found a Oil Filter that is lower profile that fits and works? My next move is to hit the Auto Zone and look at options and experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scrat Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 You could try Champion H 302 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi jon Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Don, How's that sucker look? Invite me over, I wont drink your beer or hassle your daughters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SoCalDon Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Don, How's that sucker look? Invite me over, I wont drink your beer or hassle your daughters Jon, Lets put your springs and shocks in Saturday. Come on over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motoguzznix Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I agree, the stock oil filter is an ugly device in front of the engine. I would use the older Guzzi oil filters prior to the 1100 models. The diameter is only slightly smaller, but it is much shorter. The fixing thread is different, so you need the fixing bolt from the older engines. Should be available from every Guzzi spare parts source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ratchethack Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Hey Don -- Congrat's on the Deep V sump. Lots o' the regulars (and many more o' the irregulars ) over here select such items as air filters and even tires on the basis of the "fashion statement" they think they make -- quite evidently for posing purposes -- with little, or no regard to actual performance wotsoever. But -- congrat's #2 -- this is the first time to my knowledge someone's asked about a "designer" oil filter! Lacking any a propos haute couture fashion oil filters from the likes o': Giorgio Armani Nino Cerruti Cesare Paciotti Salvatore Ferragamo Gucci Bruno Magli Luciano Soprani Sergio Tacchini Valentino Donatella Versace Gianni Versace Wot you could do is just buy any old cheapie -- I like the Wally World ST 3614 (made by Champion Labs) at ~$2 a t'row, f'r example, because it's historically tested as well as, or better than most other filters in every significant performance category -- and put some kinda foofy faux finish on it. Do they make faux carbon fiber finish in a rattle can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete roper Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Don, I used to have a shorty filter somewhere in the shed. I'll try and dig it out and find a number on it but from memory it was for the earlier smaller mounting spigot. I can't remember why I got it, its at least a decade old . No problem with using a smaller filter and changing it more often in my book. I can't see the small filter being so much more restrictive as to cause problems, especially in your fairly warm climate. Thinking back I seem to remember that the filter was specified for the Nuovo Gilera Saturno of the late eighties/early nineties??? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Minnaert Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 The filter from the older engines works fine, just need the adapter from the old(tonti) engines. I have that on mine, just because it came like that when I bought the engine. And like a coincidence, I got a big filter for it now :-) . I'm going to mount an adapterplate in between for an oil cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ratchethack Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 . . . No problem with using a smaller filter and changing it more often in my book. I can't see the small filter being so much more restrictive as to cause problems, especially in your fairly warm climate. . . . Me either, Pete. The UFI and similar sized oil filters have flow and retention capacities high enough to be spec'd for 4 and 6 cylinder car engines of well over double the displacement -- I reckon all of the ones I read testing on are at least double or triple overkill on the V11. It'd be mighty hard to get one of most any of 'em to bypass unless you'd already filled the sludge trap -- AND THEN stuffed somethin' like a bird's nest thru open velocity stacks at WOT. Or better yet, just place the nest, complete with eggs and birds, right in the sump. That oughta do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Field Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 The truth is, nobody who hasn't tested them knows how much or how often they bypass. This is what I do know: The smaller UFI has a filter area less than the width of my calibrated 1-inch thumb. Here's a pic, if you do not believe me: On all my bikes, even the Eldo (which I drilled and converted to run an oil filter), I use a larger filter. Change that bitty, wee filter often, and it will bypass less, but do you not think there is a reason Guzzi spent the money to enlarge the passages in the pan and fit a larger filter? I damn sure do . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdude Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Hey Don -- Congrat's on the Deep V sump. Lots o' the regulars (and many more o' the irregulars ) over here select such items as air filters and even tires on the basis of the "fashion statement" they think they make -- quite evidently for posing purposes -- with little, or no regard to actual performance wotsoever. But -- congrat's #2 -- this is the first time to my knowledge someone's asked about a "designer" oil filter! Lacking any a propos haute couture fashion oil filters from the likes o': Giorgio Armani Nino Cerruti Cesare Paciotti Salvatore Ferragamo Gucci Bruno Magli Luciano Soprani Sergio Tacchini Valentino Donatella Versace Gianni Versace Wot you could do is just buy any old cheapie -- I like the Wally World ST 3614 (made by Champion Labs) at ~$2 a t'row, f'r example, because it's historically tested as well as, or better than most other filters in every significant performance category -- and put some kinda foofy faux finish on it. Do they make faux carbon fiber finish in a rattle can? oooh the irony becomes you, mr Hatch but these things exist, look at this filter replacement kit from Alto Performance, meant to replace the can on Zane Laverdas (668s and stuff) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SoCalDon Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 How about I go to the local auto parts store and open filter boxes until I find a shorter one with the same thread and seal diameter. Genius is 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeve Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 How about I go to the local auto parts store and open filter boxes until I find a shorter one with the same thread and seal diameter. Genius is 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration. Save yourself some time & trouble, & only open the boxes for foreign car filters that have metric threads for mounting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SoCalDon Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Save yourself some time & trouble, & only open the boxes for foreign car filters that have metric threads for mounting... That must be on the fine print. But seriously, every filter brand must have that built into the part number some how (wishful thinking). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi jon Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Jon, Lets put your springs and shocks in Saturday. Come on over. Don, Working Saturday, we shut down Gulfstreams G5 line and need to get em back up, but should be good for Ojai.... Cheers, Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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