al_roethlisberger Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 Question: Has anyone found good replacements for the OEM Bitubo steering damper? On the non faired bikes like the V11 Sport, Cafe' Sport, Ballabio, etc... an Ohlins will bolt right up, but with the fairing on the LeMans, along with the air-deflector around the forks... only a single tube coaxial unit like the Bitubo will fit. This is why the Nero and Rosso Corsa are equipped with the Bitubo, instead of the Ohlins like Cafe' Sport, et al. So, since I am on my second Bitubo(The first one blew up, as they seem wont to do <_ and even when new they aren that great... i was just starting to look around for an affordable alternative might be a bit more durable.> Thanks! al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Stewart Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 Al, Having ridden my Rosso pretty hard, I don't think the bike really needs a steering dampner. The stock dampner is always backed off in its setting, you could say the Bitubo is just going for the ride. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve G. Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 It is a pissoff to have the thing sweating it's fluid contents all over the front of the bike. If an Ohlins were'nt so expensive I'd chuck the thing. I honestly don't think it is needed unless really, really pushing it hard, then other things like frame flex, etc take over the whole picture. Ciao, Steve G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gthyni Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 I did ride my red-frame without the bitubo for a while but I seen some serious cases of tank slap, so I got a use Öhlins damper and slapped it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Stewart Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 It seems to me that the 2000 and 01 bikes need the steering dampner more than the 02 and newer bikes. My 2000 V11 Sport does shake its head (a few times today) when on the throttle hard (full throttle) and going over bumps (front end gets light?). My 03 Rosso shows no signs of head shake at any speed. I guess the one inch. longer wheel base helps out here. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mik Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 I have to say that the steering damper is a useful item to have on my 03 LeMans. For the first time today, I had some problems with front end wobble. I'm sure it was a combination of road surface, high head winds, the slightly higher windshield and speeds approaching the century mark. The problem was alleviated by reaching down and adjusting the damper. I'm glad MG put one there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsp Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 ok all, dumb question time-- when I got my bike (used with 4.9k on it) the previous owner said he didn't like it cause the bike wouldn't turn for him! When I got the bike I set the damper (stock) for fairly light turning. Made all the difference in the world to me. The le mans dove into turns nicely- the whole bike felt light and nimble. In hard turns though the front end wants to jump around on me! So now, 3 weeks with my bike and 1000 miles later, my front tire's left side tread is almost completely gone and the right half looks terrific. Related to steering damper??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bshpilot Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 Question: Has anyone found good replacements for the OEM Bitubo steering damper? i havent had to replace mine...YET.... have you looked at these ? http://www.twobros.com/Perf_Products/Steer...risDampers.shtm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droydx Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 I dialed mine off....didn't seem to do much, except slow down the initial turn in. The 03 Rosso seems to be very stable. I don't really care for the stock tires, bridgstones, that came with the bike. They seem hard and have mid turn squirm...Great chassis and suspension though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_roethlisberger Posted May 17, 2004 Author Share Posted May 17, 2004 Interesting, although I've never heard of Matris, nor have any idea with regard to long term durability Anyone? I wouldn't mind spending ~$200 on this damper if I could feel confident it would last such that I wouldn't have to worry about a blown damper again. Another "single tube" design is by HyperPro, but they are pricey, and again I just don't know much about them. Anyone have experience with them, especially in regard to durability? Then there's a used "MToby" damper on eBay from a Sport1100 from my friend Pete in the UK. I have never even heard of that make before, so anything anyone has to say(such as if it will fit the LeMans ) is helpful. I've got a note to Pete to measure the damper in comparison to the OEM Bitubo unit. al al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marcel Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 Hi, I haven't heard of anybody being dissatisfied with Hyperpro products so far, but this relates to springs and shocks. Don't know about anybody with a Hyperpro steering damper. They are regarded as a top-end producer of suspension products in this part of the world. I only have the springs in my other bike, and am very satisfied about the product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gthyni Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 HyperPro steering dampers are top of the line, comparable to Öhlins units. Only heard praise on swedish sport bike and racing fora. Only complaint is that it is expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Minnaert Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 Al, hyperpro is a dutch product. For a small country we have a lot of suspension companys. First there was WP, then hyperpro and technoflex came. All make nice high end products you can trust. The hyperpro and technoflex founders first worked at Wp, but had other ideas how to make the best thing, so started for themselves. http://www.wpsuspension.com/ http://www.technoflex-suspension.com/ http://www.hyperpro.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 I have to say that the steering damper is a useful item to have on my 03 LeMans.For the first time today, I had some problems with front end wobble. I'm sure it was a combination of road surface, high head winds, the slightly higher windshield and speeds approaching the century mark. The problem was alleviated by reaching down and adjusting the damper. I'm glad MG put one there. Steering dampeners do not cure handling problems thats what suspesnion setup is for. Steering dampeners merely disguise the symptoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_roethlisberger Posted May 17, 2004 Author Share Posted May 17, 2004 Thanks for the info on the HyperPro. Does anyone have any opinions on the M Toby dampers, as I may be able to get a used one cheap(er). al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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