Skeeve Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Well, I posted a question a while back about how to fix the problem with the fast-idle lever not staying open w/o my holding it in position. It was then explained to me [in small words that a newbie like me can understand] that Moto Guzzi had screwed up somehow and put way, way, WAY too heavy a spring on the end of the cable by the injector housing on the right cyl. and that all I needed to do was take the wimpy spring out of a click-y pen & substitute it. Discussions then ensued as to the sanity of the engineer at Mandello responsible for this screw-up, etc. etc. Well, today when I finally actually checked under the seat and used the "trunk latch" for the 1st time, I discovered the real answer to this mystery in a flash! You see, the spring on the trunk-latch is WAY too light for it's application, as well as being somewhat longer than needed. Hmm... Hey Pinkie, are you thinking what I'm thinking? Guzzi didn't spec too strong of a spring for the fast-idle: they mixed-up the correctly spec'd. springs locations! Getting that skinny little spring back off the cable-end for the trunk-latch takes time & patience, but is easily done w/o damaging the spring. [i can only [i]imagine[/i] how many man-hours of labor time are lost putting the wrong spring on the end of the cable in the first place!] Once that's done, the rest of the swap takes less than 5 minutes. The spring originally [incorrectly] placed on the fast-idle lever cable fits perfectly in the appropriate space between the keeper & latch on the seat-release cable, and provides a suitably stiff resistance to the latch movement that you can't just smack the seat hard and have it bounce loose! The spring originally [incorrectly] placed on the seat-release fits splendidly in the correct spot on the end of the fast-idle cable, and provides precisely the correct resistance to the fast-idle lever up on the left handlebar. Ain't life grand when you can solve its little mysteries? Beware, Luigi! I'm out to get you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callison Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 I am impressed with your persistence. I'll have to give this remedy a try. Congratulations!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Jaap Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Well done, Sherlock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaing Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 We are not worthy! I just rushed out to the garage at 3AM and ten minutes later, it is functioning perfectly!!! Thank You! I could not stand the idea of a rusty pen spring on the the fast idle. It is amazing, the seat latch spring now seats perfectly and fits over the cable end lug, and the fast idle sits idle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybill Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Silly as it sounds, this is another reason I like Guzzis. This would never happen on a Japanese bike. Thanks for the info Skeeve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 This would never happen on a Japanese bike. 39948[/snapback] No because the japanese bike already comes with the bic pen spring! Cheers on your fix. I will be letting Gord know at Valley Moto Guzzi. He likes this kind of fix too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ratchethack Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Two birds with one stone! Truly a beautiful thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrt Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Daaammmnn, Skeeve. you da' man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeve Posted December 31, 2004 Author Share Posted December 31, 2004 Daaammmnn, Skeeve. you da' man. 39975[/snapback] No, all of you Guzzisti are "da man!" Wow, there truly is nothing like earning the admiration of your peers! Thanks, all of you, for the generous compliments! I'm truly grateful for the opportunity to have made a positive contribution to this site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callison Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 I looked at mine, they appear to be in the correct location. Nothing like being consistently inconsistent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidb Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 thanks... I just swapped them around. works fine now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_roethlisberger Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 ....funny, but not surprising Good sleuthing I guess I got lucky and they put mine on correctly, about the only thing they got right in 2002 apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuzzTim Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Great fix.. did it this morning Thanks! Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emry Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Great, now I have to go find the orginal fast idle spring that I replaced with a bic spring. Excellant work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bruce Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Skeeve, That's got to be the fix of the year and right at the buzzer too! There is a Quality Assurance Depart that needs you, terrific lakeside location. It does make you wonder what else is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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