gthyni Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 I heard somewhere that a V-sump would keep the oil temp at approriate levels even with the stock oil cooler? I contemplating buying a Moto Spezial V-sump and would love to get rid of the oil cooler if it is safe. any advise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vkerrigan Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Goren..........I wouldn't think that Sweden gets hot enough in Summer to cause a problem although you may want to get one of those dipsticks that has an oil temperature guage built in to monitor the oil temp just in case. If it does, you can always put it back on. Oil temps cut both ways......if it doesn't get warm enough you face contamination problems, too hot and you lose lubricity. The new sump looks like its well made and the cover over the filter is a nice (and practical) touch as well. Perhaps Paul, Pete or another will chime in with some direct experience.. .....vk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Stewart Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 I have been running the Moto Spezial V sump for 20,000 worry free miles on my 2000 V11 Sport. Never had the oil light come on with hard braking or acceleration. The center oil pickup is great. Raceco states that the sump will cool the engine enough for a 120 hp. engine. The main problem when installing the oil sump on the Spine framed bike is that a support piece needs to be fabricate to help support the side stand. I ran my side stand with out the extra brace and over a few months the cast iron side stand mount started to bend. Mike I heard somewhere that a V-sump would keep the oil temp at approriate levelseven with the stock oil cooler? I contemplating buying a Moto Spezial V-sump and would love to get rid of the oil cooler if it is safe. any advise? 43183[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebulon Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Since several years Dynotec use the v-sump for their 1225 4v engines bikes with 136 HP. I have it on the 2 bikes with big bore engine and no problem. Paul also go it on his bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Minnaert Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 on a not highly tuned 2 valver, there should't be any problem. Get it! Saves some weight too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MotoMessiah Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Could some one elaborate on the benefits (or namely what the heck it is - a bigger sump)? Is it like a windage tray to keep the oil from sloshing in hard cornering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebulon Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 By the way also buy the plate to put between engine casing & oil v sump. if one day, you do a wheeling it will help to prevent engine breaking. JM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldini Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 ...I have it on the 2 bikes with big bore engine and no problem.... ...there should't be any problem..... That's with oil cooler removed? I'm interested in doing same. KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebulon Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 that 's it and ofr Paul and we have highly tuned engine (Paul ask Dynotec to do few work on his engine in order to be such powerfull & torquous than i ) Have a look : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaing Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 As it is, our sumps are deeper than the Californias that have no oil coolers, produce more torque and often ridden as hard as our bikes. Granted they do not have the same HP, but I'll bet you could keep the stock sump and toss the cooler and only lose 10% of your engine's lifespan(assuming you bridge where the oil lines were so the oil does not pour out!) However if you live somewhere with traffic jams, slow speeds, and hot weather, keep the cooler or get the deeper sump. You may double the life. Deep sump and no cooler are fine, as everyone said. And if you are a city courier, or spend a lot of time below 20KPH, add a fan. Living in places like NYC in Summer are tough on air cooled bikes. Stockholm, or wherever you are in Sweden, I imagine is not bad at all. California is great as you can lane split almost everywhere, but I keep my oil cooler because I don't want to take chances, and once in a great while, I'll spend an hour slowly lane splitting in 90F weather through LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldini Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 ...By the way also buy the plate to put between engine casing & oil v sump.if one day, you do a wheeling it will help to prevent engine breaking.... Zebulon, Do you mean windage/splash plate. Where do you get this from. I know Pete Roper made one for the Tontis, & Enzo was working on something. Is there one available from stock somewhere? KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gthyni Posted February 13, 2005 Author Share Posted February 13, 2005 Well, I am tuning the engine a bit, soo.. I live 1000 km north of Stockholm so high temperatures are not a problem most days. I hope I get the MotoSpezial catalogue next week, The plan: I think I will order a V-sump, remove the cooler and get some kind of oil temp meter (a good thing to have anyway on any tuned engine). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luhbo Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 On my old LM3 I have an oil temperature meter. Even in summer on the highway, and for you on german highways (plus 180 km/h), I don't see more than 130 deg Celsius. For me this means next year: V11 with standard sump, additional oil meter and no extra cooler. I commute from April to Oktober, and I found that on normal roads and on 15° to 20°C days the oil hardly gets 80°. Comes rain it stays cold! HUbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebulon Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 Zebulon,Do you mean windage/splash plate. Where do you get this from. I know Pete Roper made one for the Tontis, & Enzo was working on something. Is there one available from stock somewhere? 43239[/snapback] That's it You could have this from Dynotec, i didnot check but perhaps it is done by motospezial ! ? I got it on the 2 - 1225 cc bikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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