Guest george in vancouver Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 It's called the Norge 1200 T THIS I could be interested in http://www.motoguzzi.it/norge/home.asp?lin=ita So does anybody know a mole at Piaggio to see if we're going to get this model over here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 It's called the Norge 1200 T THIS I could be interested in . . . You have good taste George. Post more often! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrt Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 My understanding is that it arrives over here this fall. Truth? Fiction? Conspiracy? You decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtucker Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I'm a big fan of that bike. I wish I had the cash for one. I know... maybe I'll trade in the MINI for it. Carrying capacity is about the same. I wonder how the Norge handles in the snow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redguzziv10 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Our local(sh) dealer, Haywards, has one booked for drooling over, later on this month...the 29th i think. Quite possibly the very first one into the country! Maybe another meet is called for ...Chris? Martin? Jim? Maybe a bit far for you this time, Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v50man Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 A dog with fleas IMHO. Ugly - not revolutionary in any way -- and probably heavy as hell. If I wanted something like that (which I do not) I'd probably be looking at a BMW or Gold Wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nogbad Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 What does it say on the fairing there? Can't quite make it out...... Looks like BARGE to me..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargoyle Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Well considering I've only owned my LeMans for roughly 2 months I'm not in the market for a bike. But...I'd sure like to figure out how to adapt that altenator to my 04. Also those bags in black would look pretty good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtucker Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 A dog with fleas IMHO. Ugly - not revolutionary in any way -- and probably heavy as hell. If I wanted something like that (which I do not) I'd probably be looking at a BMW or Gold Wing. 94777[/snapback] Heavy? Guzzi list it as having a 246 kg (542 lb) dry weight. BMW's site lists their K1200 GT as 622 lbs, with fuel. Relatively speaking, I don't think that's too heavy. As much as I like BMWs, I think the Norge is *far* more interesting to look at than the K12 (maybe not the R12, though ;-) As for the Goldwing... well, that's just a whole 'nuther beast altogether... not even worth comparing. Sort of like comparing an Audi Allroad to a Winnebago. Anyway, it seems to me that Guzzi fans have been waiting for a proper sports touring bike from them for many years, and now they have it... and it looks quite fine when compared to other bikes in that niche. Would I trade my V11S for it? Nope. I would love to add it to the stable, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nogbad Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Did someone say sports touring???? Ha Ha Ha. I don't think so. Please tell me where "sports" can be found in this Barge? It is a touring bike and only that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badmotogoozer Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I'd only be interested if it was frost free and had an ice cube maker in the door. Rj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtucker Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Well, here's a collection of various "touring" bikes available at the moment: Guzzi Norge BMW K1200 GT BMW R1200 ST Yamaha FJR1300 Ducati ST3 Honda ST1300 Triumph Sprint ST Every manufacturer has their own definition of what a "sport tourer" is, as does each of us, I'm sure. Out of this list, the only bikes I would even consider purchasing would be the Triumph Sprint ST, the BMW R12, or the Guzzi Norge. Now, given the fact that I prefer any dedicated long-distance bikes to be shafties, that pretty much leaves me with the R12 and the Norge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsp Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 you left out my Centauro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeve Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I'd sure like to figure out how to adapt that altenator to my 04. Easy: get yourself a Quota! Spineys can't use the top-mount alternator, 'cause that's where the frame goes! Quotards (Quota derivatives w/ the semi-perimeter frame) can use the top-mount alt., which is why Guzzi has gone back to it after all these years in order to move the CoM forward, closer to the front tire. While a car-type alternator is nice (rugged, cheap), it still needs to be run off the back of the clutch bell-housing instead of being run off the front of the motor... motorcycle manufacturers are supposed to innovate & show car makers how it's done [re, high efficiency small disp. 4v DOHC motors, aluminum frames, etc.], not blindly follow car practice [running the alt. off the front of the motor "because that's the way it's always been done."] Ride on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeve Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Heavy? Guzzi list it as having a 246 kg (542 lb) dry weight. BMW's site lists their K1200 GT as 622 lbs, with fuel. Relatively speaking, I don't think that's too heavy. 94812[/snapback] Relatively speaking, the K1200GT makes between 1.5x & 2x the ponies, too! Fuel the Norge and that 550# dry wt is suddenly pushing 600#, and the "sport" has mostly departed. The Norge is a tourer w/ the ability to be ridden, as opposed to merely toured, like the G'wings & H-D FLHTCUILMNOPQRSTUVW "wheeled Barcaloungers" out there. Think of it as somewhere between the above bikes & the ST13/K12/FJR13 "sports GTs" somewhat closer to the latter than the former. I hope it sells well for Guzzi, but I fear that it will not find a market given it's price/performance ratio; far cheaper and easier to pick up a Triumph ST3 and smoke the Norge in all areas [dealer/parts availability, looks, perf., cost, etc.] Not that I find the Norge hard on the eyes, but it's kinda "Plain Jane" vs. a lot of the competition. Stodgy, even. BUT it's got the Brevona beat in the looks dept. hands down, so there's still a lot of hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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