JFK Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 I have a 1996 (injected) sport 1100 with brembo front brake discs that are due for machining as they pulse, however I am likely to "cut to the chase" and replace both with new items. The stock ones I understand are 4.5mm stainless units, but I was thinking of stumping up for a better spec ... thicker, floaters... mainly so they last longer (and rust cooly in the rain) rather than any need to dramatically improve braking performance. Does anyone have experience of this? In particular can you use the thicker (5mm or 5.5mm) discs with the stock calipers? Do the bolt holes line up? Any help appreciated... JFK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Minnaert Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 fitting is same as on most ducati from 1992 to model 998, newer ones have 5 bolt patern. ANd from aprilia rsv is ok too. Braking wave is nice too. Thickness isn't a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbooghs Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Discs from all these bikes are OK: DUCATI: MULTISTRADA single disk 620 2005 - 2006 S2R MONSTER 1000 2006 - 2007 SS SUPERSPORT DS (V5/e3/0142) 1000 2003 - 2006 SPORT 900 900 2002 - 2002 ST3 992 2004 - 2006 M MONSTER (M4/e3/0030) 1000 2003 - 2005 SPORT 750 1988 - 1990 ST4 S (S2/e1/00013) 996 2001 - 2005 PAUL SMART LE 1000 2006 - 2007 GT 1000 2006 - 2007 SL 900 SUPERLIGHT 900 1992 - 1996 SS SUPERSPORT (V5/e3/0142) 800 2003 - 2004 SS 620 SUPERSPORT 620 2004 - 2004 SPORT (V5/e3/0142) 620 2003 - 2004 M MONSTER (M4/e3/0030) 800 2003 - 2004 M MONSTER single disk 620 2005 - 2006 M MONSTER (M3/e1/00025) 400 2001 - 2006 748 748 S (ZDM748S/EBE) 748 1999 - 2002 S4R MONSTER 996 2003 - 2006 851 STRADA - SP 851 1988 - 1991 M MONSTER 400 1994 - 1999 M MONSTER (M/G8020) 750 1994 - 1999 M MONSTER 696 2008 - 2008 SS 620 SUPERSPORT 620 2002 - 2005 ST4 (S2/E1.92/61.00013.00) 916 1998 - 2004 M MONSTER (M3/e1/00025) 600 2000 - 2002 M MONSTER (M/G802/0) 600 1994 - 1999 888 DESMOQUATTRO 888 1993 - 1994 S4R 996 2003 - 2006 SPORT 1000 2006 - 2007 SPORT S 1000 2007 - 2007 SPORT (V5/e3/0142) 800 2003 - 2004 JUNIOR SS 350 1991 - 1992 SS SUPERSPORT 400 1992 - 1997 SS SUPERSPORT JUNIOR 400 1992 - 1997 M MONSTER-DARK (M/G802/0) 600 1994 - 1999 748 R (ZDM748S/EBE) 748 2000 - 2000 748 SP (ZDM748S/EBE) 748 1995 - 1997 748 SPS (748/H199) 748 1998 - 1999 748 BIPOSTO (748/H199) 748 1995 - 1997 748 BIPOSTO 748 1998 - 2002 M MONSTER-DARK (M3/e1/00025) 600 2000 - 2002 SS SUPERSPORT (S/G801/0) 600 1994 - 2000 M MONSTER (M4/e3/0030) 620 2002 - 2005 M MONSTER (M/G802) 750 2000 - 2001 M MONSTER (M/G8020) 750 1996 - 1999 998 S (two pads) (H2/e1/00012) 998 2002 - 2003 M MONSTER (M/G802) 900 2000 - 2001 M MONSTER (M/G802/0) 900 1993 - 1999 M MONSTER i.e. (M2/e1/00051) 900 2002 - 2004 888 SP 888 1990 - 1993 851 STRADA-SP 851 1990 - 1991 SPORT (ZDM750S/EBE) 750 2000 - 2002 SS SUPERSPORT (S/G801/0) 750 1991 - 1999 SS SUPERSPORT (V2/e1/00026) 750 2000 - 2002 SS SUPERSPORT 900 1991 - 1997 SS SUPERSPORT (V1/E1.92/61.00004.00) 900 1998 - 2002 996 BIPOSTO 996 1999 - 2001 996 S 996 2001 - 2001 998 BIPOSTO 998 2002 - 2003 ST2 (S1/H965) 944 1997 - 2003 ST4 (S2/E1.92/61.00013.00) 916 1999 - 2004 916 BIPOSTO (916/G846) 916 1994 - 1998 916 SPS (916/G684) 916 1997 - 1998 S4 MONSTER (M4/e3/0030) 916 2001 - 2003 APRILIA MX 50 2003 - RS 50 2006 - 2006 TUONO FIGHTER (RP/e11/00027) 1000 2002 - 2005 TUONO FIGHTER 1000 2002 - 2005 RS REPLICA- EXTREMA (GS/G7960) (MP/H792) 125 1992 - 1997 AF1 FUTURA 125 1990 - 1992 RS 125 2006 - 2007 RSV SP (ME/H827) 1000 1999 - 2000 SL 1000 FALCO (PA/E11003) 1000 2000 - 2004 RSV R (ME/H827) 1000 2000 - 2000 RSV (ME/H827) 1000 1998 - 2000 RS REPLICA-EXTREMA (GS/G7960) (MP/H792) 125 1992 - 1997 TUONO (SF/e11/00053) 125 2004 - 2005 PEGASO STRADA 650 2005 - 2006 MX 125 2004 - 2007 LAVERDA GHOST(ZLVSPA/EBE) 650 1996 - 1999 STRIKE 750 1998 - 2001 SPORT 650 1995 - 2001 S FORMULA (ZLVSTA/EBE) 750 1998 - 2001 BMW G 650 X Moto 650 2007 - 2008 KTM DUKE II (KTM DKII/e1/00048) 640 1999 - 2002 DUKE II (KTM DKII/e1/00048) 640 2003 - 2006 CAGIVA MITO 525 125 2006 - 2007 RAPTOR 650 2001 - 2007 SUPERCITY 50 1992 - RAPTOR 125 2004 - 2006 SUPERCITY 125 1992 - RIVER 600 1995 - PLANET (N1/EBE) 125 1997 - 2007 MITO EV 125 1995 - 2007 MITO 125 1991 - 1992 MITO 125 1993 - 1994 YAMAHA FZR EXUP (3LE/F128) 1000 1990 - 1991 FZR EXUP (3LE/F128) 1000 1992 - 1993 FZR GENESIS (2LA/E558) 1000 1987 - 1989 XJR 1200 1995 - 1996 FZR R OW 01 R (3PJ/F170) 750 1989 - 1992 SZR (4SU/H274) 660 1996 - TDR 250 1989 - 1992 TZR (2MA/E508) 250 1989 - 1992 SRX 400 1991 - XJR 1200 1997 - 1997 XJR 1300 1998 - 1998 TDR 50 1990 - TZR 80 1987 - SZR (4SU/H274) 660 1995 - 2001 FZX ZEAL 250 1991 - heden TZR 125 1989 - 1992 TDR (italian model) 125 1989 - 1999 MZ 1000SN/SF 1000 2001 - 2002 1000 S 1000 2003 - 1000SN/ SF 1000 2001 - 2002 VOXAN BLACK MAGIC 995 2006 - 2006 CAFE RACER 995 2000 - 2006 ROADSTER 995 2001 - 2006 BIMOTA SB8K GOBERT 1000 2006 - 2006 YB9 600 1997 - 2000 SB6R 1100 1998 - 2000 SB6 1100 1996 - 2000 SB8R (SB8R/e11/0012) 1000 1997 - 2000 DB3 MANTRA 904 1995 - 2000 DB4 (DB4/e11/0020) 904 1998 - 1999 DIECI BIPOSTO 1000 1992 - 1995 DB2 SR 904 1993 - 2000 TESI 1D 851 851 1990 - 1991 YB7 400 1989 - 1989 V-DUE 500 1997 - 2000 BB1 SUPERMONO 650 1996 - 2000 BENELLI TNT RS-CAFE RACER-TITANIUM 1130 2005 - 2006 TNT RS- CAFE RACER- TITANIUM 1130 2005 - 2006 TORNADO TRE 900 2001 - 2002 TNT 1100 2004 - 2004 TNT 1130 2005 - 2006 MOTO MORINI 9.5 1200 2006 - 2006 9 1/2 1200 2006 - 2006 CORSARO 1200 2005 - 2006 MOTO GUZZI CALIFORNIA EV 1100 1996 - 2000 SPORT 1200 2006 - 2007 V11 SPORT (KR/e3/0007) 1100 1997 - 2000 GRISO 8 V 1200 2007 - 2007 NORGE T-GTL 1200 2006 - 2006 DAYTONA IE 1000 1991 - 1994 NORGE T-GTL 850 2007 - 2007 BREVA 1100 2004 - 2004 CALIFORNIA EV SPECIAL (KD/e11/00033) 1100 1997 - 2003 BREVA 850 2006 - 2006 850_2006_2006 850 2006 - 2006 NEVADA (LK/e3/0010) 750 2003 - 2007 DAYTONA IE 1000 1995 - 2000 V10 CENTAURO (KK/H601) 1000 1996 - 2001 BREVA 1100 2005 - 2006 BREVA (LL/e11/0081) 750 2003 - 2007 CALIFORNIA EV 1100 1997 - CALIFORNIA JACKAL (KD/e11/00033) 1100 2001 - 2006 V11 LE MANS (KR/e3/0007) 1100 2000 - 2005 GRISO 1100 2005 - 2007 SPORT (KE/H652) 1100 1996 - V10 CENTAURO SPORT 1100 1999 - GILERA GFR 125 1993 - 1994 Note: some of these bikes do have single discs. Cast iron discs are a real improvement You can sometimes do a real bargain at ebay especially when someone is trying to sell his 1995 Yamaha FZR1000 Brembo/Motoquality discs. Who the hell is nowadays riding a 1995 Yamaha FZR??! Well those discs fit your Sport! Just watch these measurements: inner diametre: 64 mm number of bolts: 6 diametre holes: 8,5 mm outer diametre: 320 mm bolt pattern: 80 mm total height: 10 mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK Posted March 24, 2008 Author Share Posted March 24, 2008 Wow, thanks guys (no others then?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFB Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 As Brembo part numbers, to best of my knowledge: 08.DU01.32FD (cast iron) 08.YA00.32 (stainless) With a 9.5mm disc offset: 08.6703.11 These are all full floating 9.5mm disc offset, "fixed" disc 08.2003.70, 08.4899.82, 08.4899.91 & 08.4899.93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnO Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 I've got the same problem. It is nice to see I can use the rotors from so many different bikes. Great info!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Just a reminder that the brakes can feel grabby or warped and what is needed is to put a drop of light oil on the float pins. I had replaced my fronts with a set of take-offs from an earlier Sport and thought they were ruined/warped, but they had sat so long that the float pins were stuck. A little Break-Free CLP while tapping the rotors all 'round with a mallet and much improved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Victor/Euro Moto Arizona Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Beringer makes nice cast iron rotors which they claim won't rust because of a special coating on them. I also like the Brake Tech Starblade rotors. They are expensive but weigh practically nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFB Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Cross referencing with the likes of Metalgear (which is useful in that they they advise all the disc's dimensions) suggests some of the bikes in the long list use a 104mm diameter bolt hole. So the note to watch the measurements is very wise. Any one ever tried EBC rotors? I've found MD614LS & MD614RS for GBP294 (inc. postage), which looks pretty tempting. [And very different to the local quote of AUD820 for EBC!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Field Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Cross referencing with the likes of Metalgear (which is useful in that they they advise all the disc's dimensions) suggests some of the bikes in the long list use a 104mm diameter bolt hole. So the note to watch the measurements is very wise. Any one ever tried EBC rotors? I've found MD614LS & MD614RS for GBP294 (inc. postage), which looks pretty tempting. [And very different to the local quote of AUD820 for EBC!] The EBC rotors rust. That may or may not bother you. Top-of-the-line Brembo floaters are about $610 US per pair. V11 Sport Brembos cost about $420 per pair. Breva 1100 type rotors cost about $320 per pair but are currently backordered in the US. The shop at which I work sells them, as do many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ratchethack Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I had replaced my fronts with a set of take-offs from an earlier Sport and thought they were ruined/warped, but they had sat so long that the float pins were stuck. A little Break-Free CLP while tapping the rotors all 'round with a mallet and much improved! Break-Free CLP Have also been successful keeping semi-floaters happily semi-floating with an occasional drop of Liquid Wrench on the buttons. Alternately, a mini-shot of Aero Kroil (not Sili Kroil). Lacking either, I've also used WD-40. Just make VERY certain to carefully clean up all excess, and carefully wipe-down the rotors afterward with lacquer thinner, Brakleen, or your favorite no-residue solvent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v11cafe Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 Good post I need also front disks for my Corsa and if someone knows min thickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFB Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 I need also front disks for my Corsa and if someone knows min thickness. Yeah, took me until just recently to find spec on minimum thickness. I laugh at these - "minimum thickness engraved on disc": 08489982, 08489991, 08489993 Maybe if you recognise yours that will tell you what you need to know. Breva 1100 type rotors ~US$320 per pair? Wow! Looks like I will definitely be importing to avoid local price gouging. I don't need to go fancy. I've worn my 08489982s down to sub 3mm without warping or complaint (so much for 3.6mm minimum thickness). Though one set of pads, I got from a Ducati dealer, only lasted 8000km. Maybe that helped...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasotibbs Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Yeah, took me until just recently to find spec on minimum thickness. I laugh at these - "minimum thickness engraved on disc":08489982, 08489991, 08489993 I don't need to go fancy. I've worn my 08489982s down to sub 3mm without warping or complaint (so much for 3.6mm minimum thickness). Though one set of pads, I got from a Ducati dealer, only lasted 8000km. Maybe that helped...? One of the reasons for the minimum thickness is that a pad worn close to the backing plate could possibly make a bid for freedom between the caliper and disk !! (I've seen cars do this) Its possible to go below the recommended thickness but only if the pads are checked (with our bikes the rear disk is probably the one most likely to be dangerous due to its ability to wear pads at a rapid rate !!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFB Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 One of the reasons for the minimum thickness is that a pad worn close to the backing plate could possibly make a bid for freedom between the caliper and disk !! I would have thought the pad pin, with the additional safety of a pad pin R-clip, pretty much nailed the pad against bidding for freedom? Meanwhile I've ended up with Brembo 'snowflake' rotors, 08.2003.84, ex Yoyodyne. USD120.75ea. Just a touch different to AUD688ea, for OE, via a MG dealer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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