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1 hour ago, docc said:
"Much Ado About Nothing" . . . . . . . . . .
I know, Docc. Bike has already been thoroughly gone through. I know, I paid a factory master tech to go through my V11.
If I still have the handgrip vibration, its bar end mirrors...new grips, then we'll see what's what.
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I would just be happy as a clam if I could just mount a set of chrome Napoleon bar end mirrors and some rubber plugs for the original mirror screw holes... I've seen Napoleons mounted on a V11 Sport with clipons, and I think the extra weight would smooth out the handgrip vibration I'm experiencing.
Also, the chrome Napoleons would compliment the chrome headlight ring, chrome Mistral cans, and instrument bezels. It would just work so nicely on this machine.
Anyone mount Napoleons on their V11 Sport?
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31 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said:
Probably because that's just cross referencing the P/N. Plenty of stuff fits but naturally doesn't cross reference, that's what "tuning" and "mods" are all about.
Ciao
Just making sure... I'll order a set for my V11.
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12 minutes ago, Scud said:
Final ride of 2021. Tried to take a run up Mount Palomar, but wet roads and low visibility turned me away.
Happy New Year everyone.
Gorgeous machine, Scud.
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45 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said:
I read from a knowledgeable source that these improve the situation. No responsibility accepted as I don't have any first hand experience with them myself.
https://www.motorcyclespareparts.eu/en/piaggio-parts/ap8104572
Ciao
https://www.af1racing.com/Antiv-weight-black-AP8104572-ex-AP8102579
According to AF1, these don't fit a V11 Sport.
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53 minutes ago, 2Stroke-Racing said:
germans usually do the same - hence the difference for BMW - she the bike / he the car
but i tend to give certain bikes male names - if they are outstanding hardworking pieces of engineering as this V11 !
It was my first italian bike that was a true brother
Compared to your collection and the other amazing machines shown in this community most of my bikes are daily rides or just goofy memories with the exception of the old gp maico.
Well, an Aprilia RS is nothing unremarkable!
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10 minutes ago, 2Stroke-Racing said:
sister ?
it is a hard working brother (1999 first series) without much modifications other than parts, broken by crashes on mountain roads within the last 15 years.
- front wheel, brakes and exhaust collector donated from centauro
- review mirrors and handlebars- street legal after market parts
- steering damper from a later Le Mans
In it´s younger days it was a nearly mint example but 14 years later ...
I call all motorcycles by female adjectives.
Very cool collection.
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3 hours ago, docc said:
I'll play! I don't have any Napoleans anymore, but Scud might throw in and weigh one for us. My little CRG only weigh 110 grams, but I added them to the barend weights, having taken some metal off for the mounting points.
And +1 on grip selection. The factory grips on my Sport were ridiculously thin and hard. From early on, I've used these gel ProGrip Superbike grips (made in Italy!) . . .
Great advice, Docc.
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2 hours ago, 2Stroke-Racing said:
cooling down after the ritual end of year one hour fun ride
We have sister black w/red frame V11s! I have the Mistral conical cans on mine, though. Great choice.
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37 minutes ago, Guzzimax said:
There’s two more hidden under covers behind the silver & the grape ape, plus the MT01. I’m living the dream😇
Yes you are.
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2 minutes ago, Guzzimax said:
Living the dream, apart from grovelling around on the cold garage floor, as there’s no space for a bike lift at the moment
Two V11s... pretty nice!
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8 minutes ago, Guzzimax said:
Only used to tap a blade into the gasket to loosen the pan, honest 😇😇
the sump itself was remarkably sludge free, but I’ll wash out the gauze mesh as well as fitting a new HiFlo filter
Clean is the name of the game.
Clean, clean, clean!
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56 minutes ago, docc said:
And
So right.
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18 minutes ago, Guzzimax said:
Christmas has been & gone, resulting in much Turkey & sausage consumption. It’s rained most days for the past 2 weeks. As an antidote to the post Christmas torpor I ventured into the garage today to do my first Roper plate installation on the silver V11
I found the lower sump stuck fast, gentle manipulation with a rubber mallet and wooden drift produced no movement. So searching v11lemans.com I found the suggestion of painting nitromors stripper onto the gasket. Sure it removes the paint from the sump, but I’m getting the upper & lower sump powder coated as the original paint is flaking off. The paper gasket absorbs the nitromors, and after 2 ~ 3 applications and leaving it for an hour, I inserted a craft knife blade into the gasket, gently tapped it in and the sump simply fell off, great result
Now to get the powder coating done, and reassemble with 3 new gaskets, then repeat the roper plate installation on my greenie . . .
Roll on spring 😊
Living the Guzzi dream, baby!
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Just saw Guzzi post this online.
Enjoy!
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1 hour ago, Chris Wilson said:
Would it be possible to insert a dampner inside if the frame front down tube?
I know it sounds daft but it's the main route for vibration from engine to handle bars.
Just thinking laterally here.
Is there even an opening there? I know the tubes are, well hollow, but I thought it was welded shut?
Don't have my V11 in front of me...
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3 hours ago, docc said:
Yep, I see the difference with your glossy mirrors. Just saying they might be amplifying the vibration. And harshness. Noise? That could just be me . . .
No strange noise... machine sounded great before her major service.
Perhaps I should get a set of Napoleon bar end mirrors after all...
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27 minutes ago, docc said:
IDK, bud. These look like the stockers ("stalkers?!?"
) to me . . .
Reference images:
Hmmm...they really photograph differently. Mine aren't matte finish...but very glossy, almost wet looking. Also, not so rounded, but pointy.
I'm just imagining things I guess. Anyway, stock mirrors work great for me.
Just need to iron out the vibration in the hand grips.
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1 hour ago, docc said:
IMHO (as well as experience), the factory "stalk" mirrors are aggravating contributors to the handgrip vibration on the Sports, mounted just inboard of the grips and extending a "pendulum" superiorward significantly.
Pretty sure no one ran that past the NVH Engineering Department . . .
Pretty sure my mirrors aren't stock. I have never seen them in any factory photos of a V11...No idea what they are from.
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1 hour ago, p6x said:
You forgot the Kawasaki KZ1300 in your 6 cylinders roster.
The two strokes, you have missed out on something, that I can assure you.... Of course, the legendary Kawasaki triple, Mach III, H2, S1, S2, S3, S4. And later, the Yamaha RDLC and Suzuki 2 strokes four cylinders....
I have not looked for one here in the USA, but if you could get your hands on an Aprilia 250 RS, you would have a hard time leaving it alone!
A KZ1300 weights as much as a house. My Daytona 1200 is almost 550lbs. fully fueled up (6 gallon tank), and rest assured, she's a full figured woman.
Other than straddling one of those at a standstill, I don't know how I would handle it.
An Aprilia RS250 would be great...but damn, they are rare here in the States.
Next bikes on my bucket list to own are a Norton 750 Commando and a Triumph 900 Thunderbird Sport.
After that, perhaps a 916/996/998?
Too many great machines...
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43 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said:
Because what is felt is about more than just the quantifiable amount of secondary forces but also the direction of those forces. A Guzzi V twin secondaries act laterally and the Ducati fore and aft. The chassis and suspension does a much better job of absorbing the fore and aft secondary imbalance than it does laterally. I've owned a lot of different Ducati's over the years in many different configurations and none buzzed the bar/s as badly as a V11 sport. On a Ducati handlebar vibration simple isn't an issue. So Guzzi changed their balance factor to 52% at one point I heard from the std 50% to compensate and try and reduce the vibes.. An Aermacchi single requires a very different balance factor than an equivalent upright single due simply to it's lay down cylinder and the resultant direction of the secondaries and the chassis ability to dampen them.
Ciao
A damned fine answer, Lucky Phil. Thank you!
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7 hours ago, Lucky Phil said:
Well that's because it's got 2 balance shafts. A flat plane in line 4 is not an inherently smooth engine, not by a long shot. I've got a physical problem with my right hand outer palm and little finger from many touring klms on a couple of K100 BMW's back in the day. No Guzzi will ever be as smooth as a Ducati V twin because of the crank orientation.
Ciao
I know that, silly. I have been in the game nearly 30 years myself. I was just describing how smooth the Triumph Four and Ducati Twins are versus the Guzzi Twins.
Just my experience. I also understand Triumph Triples are amazing and very, very smooth...haven't ridden one in 20 years, but I remember it very fondly. Might go find a Thunderbird Sport 900 to add to my collection in 2022 because they are so great.
I've loved all kind of engines: parallel twins, v-twins, triples, inline fours, v fours, one-lungers, Guzzi V-Twins, BMW Boxers, but I have never gotten on a Benelli Sei or Honda CBX Six...or a two stroke.
Variety is the spice of life! I just don't want numb hands while I ride my V11 Sport.
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2 minutes ago, docc said:
I would wager it was more off than that. I know I said this before, but you may be vastly relieved by what it feels like after a couple Decent Tune-ups. Also, it is important to balance the Guzzi throttle bodies "at some rpm" (2500-3000 or so) rather than at idle. Not all technicians agree or do this and their balance will be lovely at idle, but perhaps considerably off at the rpm we actually ride.
I don't mind a lumpy idle, but want it as silky as a Guzzi gets at 4-5000 and up.
(Okay, they're Guzzis, so not "silky." Maybe "leathery" would feel just right . . .)
"Lambskin leather" smooth wouldn't be bad for my Guzzi V11...My Ducatis are almost as smooth as a Honda 750 Four once off idle. My Triumph Daytona 1200 is nearly vibration-free...smooth like glass, as to be expected from any inline-four.
Just four months and I will finally get to put my big Guzzi through her paces. I think about it almost daily. She has such character, this bike.
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5 hours ago, p6x said:
My Six cents;
There is a thread of my looking for a right end bar weight because it fell off. I rode with no weight because it took a long time to locate one, and I can attest the vibrations are unsustainable. Very easy to compare between the left and the right hand side without weight.
In the Spring, I will unscrew both side caps and see if perhaps one of the weights, or both, or the rubber bushings are missing within the clipons.
Hell, it may have been off just half a degree in tuning, and now is totally smooth. Well, smoother.
I only got to ride her 30-45 mins the one time before any reconditioning was done to the machine, so who knows?
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Vibration in grips at 3k-5k RPM...any way to correct?
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I just want my hands not to go numb after 20 minutes of riding. These are supposed to be distance machines, after all.