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Posts posted by Anders
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Thank you for comments.
LowRyter,yes I know.There's going to be some hard thinking before I sell it.
PDoz,thanks for the link and info.Great! There seems to be some reason to choose the 2001-2002 then.Good to know about the forks on 2003 on.
Docc,146000 km !! That's alot.I guess it was just some odd bikes that had bad valves then.
I entered location now.Sorry about that.
The ultimate bike would probarbly be Rosso/Nero Corsa then,or maybe a 01-02.I'll look at the bikes for sale here in Sweden and see.
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I currently have an 1100 sport ie and I'm thinking about selling and buying a V11 LeMans instead.I love the 1100sport but could use just a little bit more modern clutch,gearbox,softer seat and better ECU.
So,first what year should I look for? 2003-2005?
I've read that it got some upgrades compared to 2002.Better paintwork on frame and better electronics?
Are there some technical issues that got better with the 2003?
I read somewhere that the valves or something goes bad on just about every V11 after 35000 kilometers.That there are some wear on a component that needs changing.Is that true?
Help apreciated.
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Be sure to post some pictures please!
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I would go for the same red paint as the frame.
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Excellent! Thanks!
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sp838,
It's the 1100 05-08 at Stein Dinse I thought of. Thanks for posting the link. They also have the sparkplug-protectors. Maybe the bolts too.
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I bought my 1100 Griso valvecovers with the bolts and plastic parts from Admin Jaap. Looks nice, and a bit more potent, on my Scura R I think. No pictures yet, sorry!
I bet it looks nice yes. Maybe pitcures in the future then.
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And look how tight the headers fit! Sweet! The valve covers really fill the space. Excellent!
What is the fairing on that greenie, it looks good!http://www.guzziclubforum.nu/Forum/download/file.php?id=1398
Here is a link to the picture i posted on the swedish Mg forum
HaydnR,I'ts the fairing from a Daytona RS/ 1100sport.
DOCC,I'm not sure what exhaust system is on there. It might be a conical from dynotech germany,or daes. Not sure.
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Agreed, they look very interesting. There's also a conversion kit to go back in time, round fin covers on square fin barrels. Haven't made up my mind which is better...
It's a good thing they don't rush the developement and start designs from scrap every other year like the japanese factories. Hope you find the look you want.
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http://www.guzziclubforum.nu/Forum/download/file.php?id=1398
Here is a link to the picture i posted on the swedish Mg forum
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Many thanks Pete. That's great news.
AndyH,i'll have a look around for pictures. The ones i saw was in an ad at a german site www.mobile.de but the ad is gone now.
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I've seen à picture of a v11 sport with valvecovers from griso,it looked very nice.As i'm about to change to a new one on My 1100sport i got curious.Is it an East fit?
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I would hope for that.I kind of had the same sound from the right hand side,but discovered it was a really small exhaust leak between the joints in the exhaust.
Anders
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I bet the V11 stock crossover could be improved by reducing the crossover effect.
Something that shapes the flow like this |X| rather than a simple expansion chamber.
If we could open the Staintune to see the size of the crossover hole, we could probably learn how to do it right.
Probarbly yes.
Anders
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Yah, that makes sense.
I never noticed the Mistral had less inner diameter.
http://www.mgcycle.com/MG10011-S.JPG
I always figured that there was less crossover action in the Mistral, so it functioned more like two separate exhausts.
But the diameter certainly comes into play and to my understanding would affect as you observed.
Interestingly, the FBF crossover seems to have the widest diameter.
https://ssl026.lighthousehosting.com/Ferrac...ts/22_large.jpg
Although it is known for cracking issues, it may allow the highest peak HP.
Well,the truth is ,i always thought the v11style/Termignoni/BOS style xover were more effective than the 1100sport xover,that's part of the reason why i decided to try Staintune.The Staintune xover is designed with a very long piece joining the 2 pipes together ,making it possible to have a bigger hole that the 2 pipes(cylinders) can use.It looks exactly like the Mistral xover for 1100sport but it is turned over to the v11 style.So that design probarbly helps preformance too and not just the thickness.Anyway i think Staintune is a great combination and very much spot on.
On different ID from headers to mufflerpipes.I think the reason why a stock v11 compared to a stock 1100sport has less torque at the 4000rpm area and has a big torque hump at 5000,is because the v11 exhaust goes from 42 mm ID and the muffler pipes are going into 50mm OD.
The 1100sport system is 42mm ID all the way.But that is more or less evened out when they both have a more open xover.So i think different ID on a systems different parts doesn't matter that much,but it makes differences,especially if the pipes become thinner in the middle ,like it does with a Mistral xover.
Anders
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But you were using a different Stucchi and Mistral than what Doug Lofgren tested.
Lofgren tested the crossovers for the V11Sport
V11 Stucchi
You are using the crossovers for the V1100Sporti, right?
V1100 Stucchi
Images from http://www.mgcycle.com/exhaust.html
Yes,but my point was that i think the inner diameter is making the difference,not so much the shape of it.
Mistral is thinner than the headers and much thinner than the pipes connecting to the mufflers.The Stucchi is the same thickness as the headers.
The Staintune system is thinner than stock all the way but bigger than Mistral's xover.That probarbly keeps the speed of the exhaustpulses up all through the system.That's my theory anyway.
Anders
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Here is what i have done to my 1100sport inj. from -97.
I started off with BOS 2-1 exhaust with a bad chip.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e141/And...portchip2-1.jpg
It would stall on idle very easiely and frequently but gave nice acceleration.
Then i tried the Stucchi xoverpipe, Mistral silencers and pcIII custommap(done on another dyno )
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e141/And...ersdocument.jpg
It felt kind of lame compared to the BOS 2-1 and all i had done to the intake was a K&N filter in the box.
Then to the latest set up:
Staintune exhaust(Header&collectorset),Mistral silencers,Airbox lid modified according to Phil A ,stock airfilter and a new custommap at the same place as the first one with the BOS exhaust.With the Staintune exhaust alone the gains from 3000rpm-5500rpm were huge ,and massive throttlerespons.With the airbox mods ontop of that there wasn't so much more gains in that area but now it continued from3000rpm-6500rpm.The torque is never under 84 Nm and the top is 87,9 Nm.I can just twist the throttle at any rev range and it pulls strong enough for me.
I am really happy with this set up and the sound is kind of soft really bassy and kind of loud,but not too much.The airbox lid mod made the sound a little bit louder but in a mellow way,i don't know the word ,but definitly not an agressive sound.(pictures below of exhaust and airbox lid.)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e141/AndersO/guzzi1100.jpg
In my opinion the Staintune exhaust is the perfect mix between Stucchi and Mistral xover .Mistral gives more at 3-5000 than Stucchi but then fades and Stucchi has more above 5000 rpm and Staintune has gains in both areas.This one is from Dough Lofgrens page comparing Stucchi and Mistral:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e141/AndersO/more_m1.gif
Here are pictures of the exhaust and airbox lid:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e141/AndersO/P1000528.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e141/AndersO/P1000531.jpg
Perhaps a way to go if you have an 1100 sport or Daytona.And i want to thank Phil A for the airbox lid research.It works perfectly!!
Anders
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I think that was Callison
Yes,that thread was the only one i could find too.But i have a vague memory of someone else trying it,
but i can't find it.
sorry Raceboy.I suppose you could ask Jens Hoffman at Dynotec by email.
Anders
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Thanks Paul.
Someone on this forum or www.guzzitech.com or www.wildguzzi.com did put a fairing from a 1100sport on a v11 and showed pictures as he progressed.I will try to find it.
Anders
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Here it is.
www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?act=Search&CODE=show&searchid=4e386e49bcf7f3687f522a73bdca9233&search_in=posts&result_type=topics&highlite=mike+rich
if the link doesn't work do a search "for mike rich" it is the topic "Anyone dualplug a v11"
If it is interresting.
Anders
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Eerh...I'm not sure but isn't there an older topic about High comp. pistons where someone said the Mike Rich Pistons are a better option than FBF ?
I could be wrong though.
Anders
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If you want a sportier look,maybe try something like this.I think someone on this forum has done it to his v11.It is a fairing in the same shape as a 1100sport by Dynotec.But maybe it is possible to put a stock 1100sport fairing on.Anyway,this is what it would look like.
Anders
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Shark titanium....good sound and best performance!!!
Is that a full system about 44mm OD all the way?
Unlike the typical V11 or LeMans the muffler pipes seems to be the same size as the rest of the exhaust and not bigger. In that case that design is very close to a Staintune system except that the Staintune pipes are about 1mm thinner ID than stock.
As i've said in another thread ,what i have found is that with a full exhaust alittle bit thinner than stock gives really good midrange from 3000-6000rpm.And if the pipes leading into the mufflers and the mufflers themselves are bigger than the headers you get a little less grunt at around 3500-4500rpm.
I think that is the reason why the stock v11 has less torque there compared to the 1100sport inj.
Well it looks nice on the bike anyway
Anders
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I'm not to keen on using a PCIII. I'll probably go the route of a new ECU.
Has anyone done a back to back testing (dyno pulls) with and without the crossover pipe up front..............on the same bike?????????????
Raceboy
I hope someone who has will reply you.I just wanted to mention that i have read somewhere on this forum that the front x over helps a little with the dip at 4000 ish rpm when the bike is very near stock.
If you modify with Stucchi/Mistral/FBF xover(under gearbox)or something and also modify the airbox/put pods on,the front xover is not nessesary.Apparently it does the same job as an under the gearbox xover but maybe not as much difference as under gearbox xover.
I have a sporti and i also thought about the same thing.I even thought in my desperate chase of midrange torque that as heavily tuned Lemans engines has exhausts like that ,that has very much torque,than it's got to work on the 1100 engine too.But they are different in valve size,stroke,and so on.
Anders
Do I have to grease the driveshaft?
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I'm thinking about selling my 1100sport ie and buying a V11 LeMans.One of many questions that comes to mind,
do you grease the driveshaft in three awkward places on the V11 too,like the 1100sport?