belfastguzzi

1967

Maybe it's their Englishness? Ok, cross the Irish Sea: what about the Undertones (Here Comes the Summer, Teenage Kicks) and Stiff Little Fingers (Alternative Ulster)? Maybe still not visceral enough, plus they're just babies, we've moved from late sixties territory. Maybe that's ok now, as long as they use real valves? If we're shifting the time frame, I was considering Gordon Gano and the Violent Femmes??? Too folky for ya? Slippery slope – it'll be Showaddywady and Gary Glitter next. Yeah, back to '67 hehehee

Harumph – we've all had our heads done-in by SoCal guys!

Methinks you protest too much. Computer's got you sussed, Mikey

Thanks. I see that the AGIP Racing 4T 10-60 that MG recommends is classed as API SG (or better). So if it's available, that looks like the one to use. About £11 per litre or £1,500 for 208 L drum.

Greg, (sorry, I know everyone hates to discuss oil) the Griso 8V manual says to use oil matching or higher than CCMC G-4 API SG specs. Can you elaborate on MG being adamant that nothing higher/later than SG should be used? Are they being condradictory (again), as it appears, or is there another interpretation?

As it happened after the indicator lights were changed, it seems likely that the two things are related. From memory, the wires at the back of the bike, which go to tail light and so on, are quite tightly packed against and between frame parts etc. in a few places. Some wires could be exposed or nipped or the connectors may have been pulled apart a bit.

That's not a bike, MadHaggis, that's his little ukelele, wot he has in his hand.

MacHaggis, are you keeping other info, such as owner details and VIN?

This could be Norwegian, but it's more like Double Dutch: Funny English Joker ??? Norman 'Isle of Man' Wisdom I was tempted to put George Formby (**check this link for the TT Race**) in the Music thread but this thread is clearly the true home for Comedy Englishmen. The TT song

MG say that the use by police (and military?) proves how reliable their bikes are

interesting new section on MG site

You're very naughty, holding it on same weekend as the NW 200. This was going to be the first year in recent times that I would be free to get to NW! Perhaps the Saturday ride should be via Stranraer-Larne ferry to Coleraine! It's going to be odd at the ferry terminal on the Friday (and Sunday) when hundreds and hundreds of bikes are getting the ferry in the opposite direction.

Eric Burdon is one of those voices that I had in mind. Here's another that does what you say, when the guitar comes in. Tobacco Road and here, joined by Jimi, 16 September 1970: just before he died, 18 September. On another matter: I go away for a week and come back to find that still no-one has posted anything by Van (no, not V.11 Van). How can that be?! Even 1964/65's Gloria, surely? G - L - O - R - i - i - i - A gonna shout it every day Starting up the Guzzi rhythm

Who are these fellows. I'd guess that they're Tenni guys, except that the one on the right seems to be Jaap. Is he other one Paul Minnaert? Dutch songsters This one has a rorty Solex (?) in it vrOOm More Dutchmen: Op de step!

I've said here before that I have a lasting and momentous impression of hearing a LM Guzzi traveling up a mountain valley, a long time ago. I was camping in Glen Nevis when I heard a slow thunder rumbling up the Glen. I didn't know anything much about Guzzi's but I knew it had to be one. In the distance a red machine passed by. Unforgettable and one of the reasons that I ended-up getting a Guzzi, a long time later. Yes: it's the music.

Maybe I was thinking of Thijs van Leer. Thijs van Leer / Jan Hammer / Jozef Szrek – oh I don't know. It was all so long agogo... A theme developing? Well I'm having enough trouble, trying to keep the MG-related theme in this music stuff, without you going and developing new themes! Good Peter Green Tribute, by the way.

That bike – that's Iggy, definitely

a fine new strap-line for the site

yeh, I smelt the burnt valves in that one. I'm surprised that the Tenni Guys haven't chipped in yet, with something that's hot enough to 'burn', by... Peter GREEN. Not that I'd suggest that the V.11 is a bit of an 'albatross': even if it does require you to 'shake your moneymaker' more than a little.

I agree with your emphasis there J. That quote wasn't mine. I was quoting from a YouTube comment for its general 'thrust' rather than complete endorsement. However: Iggy and the Stooges!!? Are you Belgian? ----------- OK – so here's the point and the value of the thread. I've just had a look for and a listen again to Mr Pop Stooge. I'll reassess that one. Not bad. Rather good with Kate Pierson. But perhaps he's a bit more Buell? Oh* I know – it's the Ghezzi-Brian thing! Of course!

Of course! I was trying to think of another 'MG' voice (like early Rod) and completely forgot about the Mad (Dog) Englishman. Good one. SBB – is that Jan Hammer? Suppose not, but it looks like him, or did they all look like that back then? Did you mean to post Alvin Lee instead of a jazzy Jeff Beck? No harm done anyway as TYA should always be heard, somewhere along the way. Yer man was an energetic thriller, but a bit mechanical in the repetitive fingerwork?? I guess it's gonna be Canned Heat and then maybe Butterfield Blues Band, next? Just a feeling in my bones. And Locomotive Breath, yes! I'll always remember the first time I heard that chugalug.

Try this Frank Blind Faith A nice Winwood touch to Under My Thumb And here's a restrained version of The Classic – now can someone find this from the Rainbow concert, at the point where the wah wah solo kicks in and your hair stands on end – kinda like winding the V.11 up to full chat (just stretching it, to keep this thread on track)? Here's a poor quality version from MSG

Well, let's go for the 'two is better' approach. This track is a bit modern and polished for what I'd intended in this thread, but it's still pretty good guzzi-style, I think. Twin style: EC & JB Oh, gotta admit, single is pretty fine: press start and roll the throttle – or whatever any old which way... Does Termignoni do a Jeff Beck? I'm still hoping for some clips where the leathercloth is peeling from the chipboard cabinets. Something a bit elemental yet has the essence of classic style, something where the raucous rort and blat is underlaid by a solid bed of earth hum; something a bit rickety-rackety, clackety-clanky, but sweetly chewable as Italian coffee; dark, light, flawed, perfect, always soulful. A bit big block ditch pump. A bit Rory Gallagher checked shirt and denim jacket, a bit Rory Gallagher Stratocaster. A bit Catfish, a bit Sugar Mama. Hmmm. Maybe '90s Rory is a good picture of MG? Troubled, overweight, near to death, but still capable of roaring, raging, flying: inspired and exuding spirit. And the Twin version, with equally bloated Jack Bruce, making it up as it rolls along. More twins: Pauls, Rodgers and Kossoff. I had better go to bed

The cartoon threads and such-like throw up some really interesting items that wouldn't otherwise be discovered. I'd never seen La Linea before. Maybe some nice discoveries and evocations can be had from the thousands of old music move clips out in webworld? I'm not talking glossy pop-promos here (unless it's something really special). I'm thinking more about the footage that evokes the smell of dust burning on hot 4-valve power. Quatrovalvole EL34s: swoon... Guitars with twin-pot chug and rumble, rather than the multi-cylinder squeal of shredding pyrotechnics. Marshall, Vox, Wem, Moto Guzzi v-twin – not such different worlds? And as Guzzi riders know (see the Why is Guzzi Your Beloved Bike thread) it's not all about the horsepower numbers on the dynochart. As a YouTube commenter notes: "exactly, it isn't all about musical theory. which is why i consider Hendrix and Clapton the best.. their music/riffs simply sounded better. faster is really next to never better on the guitar. After a certain point of learning how to get to any note, any time, intangibles come into play, and that separates the Hendrix's from the Malmsteen's. Music in essence, is expression of emotion through art. the way i judge the guitarists are, expression of emotion through note combo's/song concepts." To start off: here's the man with the Moto Guzzi voice Jeff Beck Group - Plynth Faces - Gasoline Alley / Around the Plynth and here, Eric demonstrates his 4 primary controls and gives a lesson on his Woman Tone