Ryland3210 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 I haven't changed anything from the factory settings. I was thinking of changing Valve Clearences to World settings and getting to someone good to set up TPS. With so many replies and most of you with decent Guzzi experience I would tend to agree that its possibly is a ping. I know that we have different gas formulation for the winter times but I didn't think that it would make such a noticeable difference. I only use Premium Grade gas and this time I filled up with Sunoco 93 Octane. By the way thanks on mentioning that I can get vent hose from autoparts store. I will do that ASAP as well as getting brass (not cooper) male to male hose barb connector If anyone has good Guzzi shop in mind in 2 hours radius (150 miles) from me I would appreciate to know As John's Ryland post it looks way different then Guzzi workshop manual Moto Guzzi Official manual John's Placement recommendation If you look carefully at my placement suggestion, you will see that each end of the valve is connected the same way as the manual. The difference is the orientation of the valve: upside down from the way the manual implies it should be. If you want to take a chance on my TPS/synch skills, I'm about 70 minutes drive from the GWB, and you're welcome to bring your bike over to my place. You've suffered enough-I'll do it for the fun of it. If you plan on doing valve clearance, do it ahead of time or at my place, if you have the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackBoots Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Take it easy, FL. These are very minor, easily fixable little "annoyances" at worst! The Guzzi manual is not correct (or at least misleading) WRT the correct installation of the tipover valve. John Ryland has provided posts and illustrations of the correct orientation and ID of inlet and outlet here: http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?...st&p=132990 Your local auto parts shop has vent tubing to match the inside diameter of what's on the bike. Please DO NOT use copper That photo confused me. Why the loop in the hose? and which end of the valve is supposed to be up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mznyc Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Hi Vlad, I can come buy and check it out,I'll be at my apartment in the East Village for most of Dec.I got the pinging on the Scura and know what it sounds like.Unfortunately I'll be in Scotland(Glasgow,MacGuzzitis ) till next week but can check it out when I get back. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryland3210 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 That photo confused me. Why the loop in the hose? and which end of the valve is supposed to be up? The purpose of the loop is to allow the valve to be attached such that the longer hose barb is pointing to the sky. The valve only permits flow from that end to the end connected to the tank in my picture, but it only permits flow if attached the way it is shown. Otherwise the internal check valve closes. If the valve is mounted with the longer end downward, it won't flow in either direction. Therefore the short hose which normally connects the tank to the valve has to be replaced with a longer one or lengthened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalcoLion Posted November 27, 2007 Author Share Posted November 27, 2007 Hi Vlad,I can come buy and check it out,I'll be at my apartment in the East Village for most of Dec.I got the pinging on the Scura and know what it sounds like.Unfortunately I'll be in Scotland(Glasgow,MacGuzzitis ) till next week but can check it out when I get back. Michael Mike, That would be awesome. Give me a buzz when you are available. 718-360-4531 In meantime I wil take my Falco out if weather permits Thanks Vlad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackBoots Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 The purpose of the loop is to allow the valve to be attached such that the longer hose barb is pointing to the sky. The valve only permits flow from that end to the end connected to the tank in my picture, but it only permits flow if attached the way it is shown. Otherwise the internal check valve closes. If the valve is mounted with the longer end downward, it won't flow in either direction. Therefore the short hose which normally connects the tank to the valve has to be replaced with a longer one or lengthened. Ok, gotcha.. thanks for elaborating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalcoLion Posted November 27, 2007 Author Share Posted November 27, 2007 The purpose of the loop is to allow the valve to be attached such that the longer hose barb is pointing to the sky. The valve only permits flow from that end to the end connected to the tank in my picture, but it only permits flow if attached the way it is shown. Otherwise the internal check valve closes. If the valve is mounted with the longer end downward, it won't flow in either direction. Therefore the short hose which normally connects the tank to the valve has to be replaced with a longer one or lengthened. I guess freaking Luigi had too much grapa while compiling a workshop manual. I guess everyone has to drink large amounts of wine to get to the state of mind to come up with such stupidity in engineering. Thank god we got people like John (Ryland3210) so they actually try and figure this annoyances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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