docc Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Is it possible to fit the Swan Neck bars from the earlier V7 to the 2000-2001 V11 Sport? Were these also used on the 750S and S3? (Looking for an elegant and proper solution to the achy wrists.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luhbo Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 The fork diameter might be slightly different, I suppose. Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guzzirider Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Not as pretty as the swan necks but you could get some adjustable Tarozzi clips ons with which you can alter the height and angle of the bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaing Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 The fork diameter might be slightly different, I suppose. Hubert It would be very different. The swan neck bars from the Centauro are probably the right size. Are the Centauro the same as Verlicchi? http://www.mgcycle.com/bars.html "300017038 Touring 54mm fork tube $349.95 pair (Centauro/V11Sport/etc) "Sport" (2 inch rise) or "America" (7 inch rise) are available by special order. " Convertibars are similar, and are available in different angles. I like how I can change width by moving forward or back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 The Verlicchi have the look of the originals. Certainly elegant. Has anyone actually fitted these to a V11 Sport? The Convertibars have the downward angle that (I think) I'm trying to get rid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldButNotDead Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 The Verlicchi have the look of the originals. Certainly elegant. Has anyone actually fitted these to a V11 Sport? The Convertibars have the downward angle that (I think) I'm trying to get rid of. You have the option to buy Convertibars that are angled downnward, or you can choose to get the flat ones like I did. Either way , they offer a huge range of available positions. Way up and back for town and way down and forward for track. Did I mention I really like these things? I did replace my lines and cables using OEM bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motoguzznix Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 The Verlicchi have the look of the originals. Certainly elegant. Has anyone actually fitted these to a V11 Sport? The Convertibars have the downward angle that (I think) I'm trying to get rid of. I mounted the verlicchis onto my 2000 KR. Riding position has changed very slightly: the bars are approx. 2-3 cm higher which gives me a more comfortable ride, but character of the stock V11 (which I like) did not change too much. They are adjustable in all directions and available in 3 heights. I choosed the lowest bars and could retain the stock brake line at the front. The accelerator cable comes from the Centauro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 With just 1-2" (25-50 mm), do any of the stock cables or lines have to be changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macguzzi Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 those swan necks are only 35mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 You have the option to buy Convertibars that are angled downnward, or you can choose to get the flat ones like I did. Either way , they offer a huge range of available positions. Way up and back for town and way down and forward for track. Did I mention I really like these things? I did replace my lines and cables using OEM bits. O'BND: What "OEM" components did you use? Cables? Hydraulic lines? How high can one go without swapping lines and such? (And do you have a photo of your set-up?) Thanks, docc-with-the-achy-hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaing Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Here are photos of my convertibar setup Right bar http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2443/co...barrightqf2.jpg Left bar http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/37/convertibarleftik4.jpg Riders view http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7736/co...iderseyeil3.jpg Front view http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2454/convertibarpd6.jpg EDIT and for comparison, Docc's photo of stock V11 bars http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c215/doc...es/IMG_4385.jpg I have Ohlins forks, which are longer, so the setup option is different than what you should do with the Marzocchi. I lowered the triple clamps down the Ohlins forks leaving enough room to clamp the convertibars on top of the upper triple clamp. Because I upgraded to four pad calipers I was able to use Suzuki SV650 brake lines made by "Braking", that I recall are about two inches longer than stock. Clutch and throttle are stock and just needed careful attention to routing, but otherwise worked fine. To go higher I would need longer everthing. The quality of build on the Convertibars is very nice. Tubes are stainless and clamps are designed for quick easy adjustment. I noticed a mild increase in vibration over the stock bars. I am sure most people would not notice the slight increase in vibes, but bar end mirrors or weights are probably a good idea. To get an idea of how high you can go up if you change the brake lines, compare my left bar photo with Motoguzznix's frontal shot. http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?...ost&id=7663 I might be able to go another half inch up, but it would be pushing the limits of the throttle and clutch lines. I never thought of getting Centauro throttle lines. I'll have to keep that in mind. I'll bet a Centauro clutch line might be longer, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 Centauro has a cable clutch (five speed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaing Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Centauro has a cable clutch (five speed). DRAT! I suppose a custom line is easy enough. If anyone gets the measurement for the clutch line, please share! I am pretty happy at the current height, so I am not in the market, but others might be need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldButNotDead Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 O'BND: What "OEM" components did you use? Cables? Hydraulic lines? How high can one go without swapping lines and such? (And do you have a photo of your set-up?) Thanks, docc-with-the-achy-hands My saga involved an initial swap of Ballabio handlebars/cables/lines for the original 2002 V11 Naked parts. This was early on, immediately after purchasing the bike in 2003 - before other options were available. We've got no hills here, and I hadn't yet heard of track days, so the clip-ons were just annoying. After discovering the joys of riding for sport, I wanted that capability back. When the Convertabars for the V11 came out, I bought just the clamps and flat bars, and exchanged them for the Ballabio handlebar. Looking at their web page now, I notice that the Convertibars "bars" have since changed. They are now adjustable in another plane - allowing downward angles for the racer types. I haven't done range-of-motion measurements, but some are given in the V11-specific installation notes found here: http://www.convertibars.com/InstallationList.cfm Likewise, I haven't shot photos, but here's a good one from the installation notes: If I was buying Convertibars now, I'd just buy the whole bloody kit (which includes lines and cables), to allow maximal range of motion. I don't see the point of going halfway, but that's my default attitude. I pretty much agree with all of dlaing's comments above. Definitely more vibration that the rubber-isolated handlebars; can't say I remember what the clip-ons were like. Barend weights + barend mirrors help. Takes me about 20 minutes to switch from high to low (or back). Cheaper than buying a track bike. At least until you drop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaing Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 When the Convertabars for the V11 came out, I bought just the clamps and flat bars, and exchanged them for the Ballabio handlebar. Looking at their web page now, I notice that the Convertibars "bars" have since changed. They are now adjustable in another plane - allowing downward angles for the racer types. Cool! Now I need to come up with another couple hundred bucks! My bars are the FG with four degree bend. I was considering the zero degree (90°) bend, but this would be much better. Plus or minus 8 degrees! (in 4° increments) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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