leafman60 Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Ok guys. I just picked up a new Scura. It now has 1800 miles on it. After it warms up and is idling in neutral, there is a terrible rattling racket. When I grab the clutch lever it quiets. When I let it back out it resumes. I noticed today that even while I'm in gear and trolling along in first gear and near-idle rpm's, I can hear the racket. Im used to noisy Ducati clutches but is this normal for a Goose???? Any diagnoses??? leafman60@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaing Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Loud rattling is normal. Loud pipes and ear plugs help. To rest easy, ask your dealer about it. Some bikes rattle with clutch pulled in, some with it let out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motomonster Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Yes, the rattle is normal. It scared me at first too. Now I kind of like it; it makes the bike sound like a giant gringing machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Alright , you experts, tighten me up on this: The scura is '02 only? And the single plate clutch was on Scura, Rosso Mandello ( '01?) and what else? Â Do we think this clutch has the self-grenading feature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Scura was '02 only - though I know of one that's still not sold. Same single plate clutch is on the Tenni. Rattling is certain with this clutch - I'm on my second. The first clutch got so bad that the dealer agreed that it should be replaced - we were both afraid something was going to fly out of the casing. On inspection, it didn't look too bad - just play between the splines and plate. The second clutch seems to be holding up better although it started rattling at about 250 miles onwards - I just dont leave it idling in neutral when warm - it's still silent on startup! I recall that there was one single plate clutch that "grenaded", but never heard of that kind failure before then or since. I don't think the rattling was related to that failure. BTW, if the clutch is still rattling when the lever is pulled in something is definitely wrong - this applies to all V11s (probably a warped plate). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldini Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Scura clutch is noisy as hell. John O'Sullivan has Scura - visited Agostinis, they approved of the noise...said that Scura clutch was improved over earlier single plate (Rosso Mandello) but also noisier. Did I get that right John? (& how are ya? - not seen you here for a while...). Â Re that "grenade" - on photos it's a piece of flywheel that flew out rather than clutch, not sure if flywheel is same on Scuras/LeMans? Anyone? Any word on why that flywheel failed? (Paul?). Â Cheers, KB, Cymru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John O'Sullivan Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Kieth,  You got it exactly right, Agostini's say that the Scura single plate clutch is an improved model over the Rosso Mandello's clutch, only its noisey and don't we know that  Especially for Jaap and his Dutch friends I include this O.T. Joke:  A guy walks into a bar, orders a beer and says to the bartender, "Hey, I got this great Dutch Joke..."  The barkeep glares at him and says in a warning tone of voice: "Before you go telling that joke you better know that I'm Dutch, both bouncers are Dutch and so are most of my customers"  "Okay" says the customer,"I'll tell it very slowly."   My starter circuit is blowing 15 Amp fuses and I'm not having any luck finding the problem. I have checked the starter and its connections, they are fine. The starter button and kill switch are suspect but I cannot open the switches as the seem to be sealed.  I have upped the fuse to 20 Amp to see can I get any smoke/spark to show the problem.  Any ideas ?  Regards,  John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Jaap Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 "Okay" says the customer,"I'll tell it very slowly." He probably tells it slower so that he has a bit more time to prepare for a beating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Jaap Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Moving to Technical Topics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Minnaert Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 I have a Scura, but never heard the clutch:-). the failed engine has a broken aluminium flywheel. That failure can be seen before it goes wrong I think, I suggest that one in a while single disk clutch owners, inspect the fltwheel from time to time. Take the rubber out of the inspection hole, and rotate the cranck one turn, inspect the flywheel on cracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 This Scura flywheel is different from the other Sports/LM? I thought they were all steel? Â I remember in those pictures the broken part was rusted along the edge of the break. I assumed that meant it had been cracked for a while. Yet, if rusted it must be iron. Was that a piece of the clutch pressure plate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Minnaert Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 The single disk clutch has an aluminium flywheel, other guzzi's have steel. And the rust on the picture is dirt from the clutch, that has been there fror a while, because the crack had been there a time before the real failure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi323 Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 I've got 17K miles on my Scura clutch and have had no problems (well with the clutch at least). I love the bike. It's definitely a keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaing Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 BTW, if the clutch is still rattling when the lever is pulled in something is definitely wrong - this applies to all V11s (probably a warped plate). Are you sure about that? Mine has been rattling with the clutch pulled in from day one. The dealer said it was normal, and my mechanic has never commented on it. 21,000 miles on it now. I suspect it wiil eventually grenade or slip someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emry Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 5800 miles and it has rattled, loudly since new. Quiet when the clutch is in. Personnelly I like the noise. More character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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