andy york Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 You guys thought I was messing around about the magic smoke. Well here's proof that it got out. I'll chase it down one of these days. to damn cold to ride right now.....oh wait ....I'm just getting old lol any leads on a white faced veglia tach lemme know...it lost its magic smoke too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I know this Smoke Wrangler that makes house calls . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy york Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 supposed to be a picture in there somewhere…..ahhh here it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Leeds Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 It is rather good to revisit this http://www.elmoto.net/showthread.php?2638-Electrical-theory-by-Joe-Lucas http://www3.telus.net/bc_triumph_registry/smoke.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy york Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 It is rather good to revisit this http://www.elmoto.net/showthread.php?2638-Electrical-theory-by-Joe-Lucas http://www3.telus.net/bc_triumph_registry/smoke.htm Thats some funny stuff John lol . I find it interesting that the Italians were left out of that scenario…must have been an oversight. We need to incorporate Valeo,Veglia, and ducati into to that somehow. As an aside to that …I was looking at a Ferrari 308 and I swear its has the same tach as a early 80's Moto Guzzi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I've been secretly trying to bottle Italian smoke in the hopes of getting AY's LeMans fully charged once and for all. I have just about enough to do up an ignition switch if we can figure a proper catalyst. Folks in these-here parts tell me smoke and moonshine work together . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy york Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 I reckon a little clear "liqer" could be used ( or abused) I'll be in the man cave this week putting my serviced suspension back on. FYI anyone in these parts needs suspension work try David at FastbikeIndustries dot com Great guy, has worked for 5 or 6 of the top teams in AMA road racing. His specialty is Ohlins but he works on any of them ( that can be serviced. some can't) Back to the smoke issue….. I put a new battery in and proceeded to have "over charging issues. I'm pretty sure i left off the hot wire coming from the voltage reg which should have been on the P terminal I know it fried the tach, just wondering what else. Maybe even messed up the new battery. anyway …..more to follow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi_Roy Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Andy, the tach and charging rely on a feed from the headlight relay, if the headlights not on the tach wont be working. Do you have any other headlight mods, relays, extra lights and so forth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luhbo Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I still wait for the day when finally one of you hobby sparkies let the smoke out of the whole bike, hopefully out of his own then Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I still wait for the day when finally one of you hobby sparkies let the smoke out of the whole bike, hopefully out of his own then Hubert Suggesting we should leave our bikes alone and live with all the deficiencies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi_Roy Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I still wait for the day when finally one of you hobby sparkies let the smoke out of the whole bike, hopefully out of his own then Hubert Hubert, If that snide remark was addressed at me let me assure you I am more than qualified to comment on things electrical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy york Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 OK back to square one. Thought I had it solved with the wire Not being attached. It was attached so now I'm still blowing 15 amp fuse. I will assume that Kiwi Roy will tell me a low and high for AC volts from the alternator,measuring between the two yellow leads. Since I don't want to plug my new tach in I'm guessing that at about 2500 to 3000 rpm I'm getting 50v AC....If I rip it on up to about 5500 to 6000 rpm I get about 75 -80 v AC My next step is to plug in my spare voltage regulator and measure at the battery. I'm not convinced I don't have a "bad " new battery. Its a Hawker. I've had great success with them but this one just doesn't seem right. I have another larger one. When put on the battery tender after about 15 min the light turns green (meaning fully charged). On the "new"battery even after 24 hours it won't go green. anyway Guess i might have to fly Kiwi Roy in lol unless Docc gets here first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Guess i might have to fly Kiwi Roy in lol unless Docc gets here first Oh, man - that's like hoping for the Air Cavalry (roy) and, instead, getting a boy scout with a volt meter (docc) - I think Hubert warned you about me already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy york Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 Well then it will be 2 boy scouts with meters against the calvery lol The stator appears to be performing correctly AC volts are within spec Found a "Rick's" voltage regulator at the Duc dealer( long story) and my new tach arrived. I don't think I'll plug it in yet . Also pick up a nifty little short circuit tester. Plug it in instead of a fuse It starts buzzing and then trips ....after it cools down it resets itself and start the process over again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy york Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 Being At wits end here, I had a brain storm. I recall that some of the late 90's-early 2000 Duc's had a 2 wire charging system. Off to the local Duc store bout 5 min from me. (never been there , don't like the guy ) After all the BS of whats it go on-we can't do that it won't work- I finally ask him to get the damn thing and let me see it. Low and behold its a Ricks 2-wire voltage regulator. bought-home-pluged in. Appears the problem was the regulator. I guess once it heated up enough ( which did'nt take long) something stops doing its job and there is a spike in current which blows the fuse and seconds later the headlamp. I think this regulator is set to low cause I'm only showing 12.4v to the battery, but its rock steady. No flucuation at all. And no blown fuses or headlamps. Still need to find a proper regulator that gets me up to the 13.5-13.7 range but I sure wish it didn't have to be a ducati mechnia. I'd pay top dollar to have an adjustable heavy duty unit cause what we have is crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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