Murray Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 No the Guzzis the kill switch doesn't just kill ignition it will stop the starter from turning the motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Have you tried hitting the starter with a hammer (gentle taps before you work up to a full on Homer type rage). I had a problem with a sticking solenoid on the starter, a few taps and it started fine (since been sorted). other than that all I can think of (some of which have been covered) is relays, fuses, clutch switch wiring and checking any wires that go to the starter (unlikely but you can also check the righthand switchgear), if you have a multimeter you can check most of the circuit. good luck, chances are its something simple Mal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 HI PULL CLUTCH LEVER IN PRESS START BUTON . 67984[/snapback] Still doesn't start <_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 Also, make sure that you are actually in neutral and not in between gears. 67917[/snapback] In neutral . . . still doesn't start <_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 also make sure the switch on the kick stand is moving in and out. apply some WD40. 67986[/snapback] Switch moves freely. Added WD-40 . . . still doesn't start <_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 There's a notorious pair of bullet connectors under the tank at the front left-hand side of the frame that go to the clutch switch. Myself, my Pal Dan ('04 LeMans) and many others on this forum have found that: 1. If you cycle the handlebars stop-to-stop, this will often jostle 'em just enough to get enough current thru 'em so you can start. 2. If the above enables you to start, you can disconnect these connectors and cycle them a few times, fill with dielectric grease and lightly crimp 'em, and the problem won't be back. 67320[/snapback] Must one remove the tank to get to this pair of bullet connectors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 Have you tried hitting the starter with a hammer (gentle taps before you work up to a full on Homer type rage). I had a problem with a sticking solenoid on the starter, a few taps and it started fine (since been sorted). Mal 68195[/snapback] Tried tapping starter . . . still won't start <_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 I've used a paper clip before between the connectors to the clutch that are located just at the point that they go under the front of the tank. Held it in place just long enough to turn the key on. It worked, now I keep a paper clip with me. 67929[/snapback] Could you expound on this proceedure please. Not sure what you are talking about. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ratchethack Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Must one remove the tank to get to this pair of bullet connectors? Yes. They're further back under the tank. Bullet connectors are single-wire connectors. There are 2 of 'em and you can positively ID them by following the wires from the clutch switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 Yes. They're further back under the tank. Bullet connectors are single-wire connectors. There are 2 of 'em and you can positively ID them by following the wires from the clutch switch. 68911[/snapback] Thanks. I'll give her a look see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeBenGuzzi Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 just remove one bolt under the seat then tip up the tank ever so slightly and get a looksie if the wires are still good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 Cleaned and greased clutch bullet connectors . . . still won't start <_> Switched all the relays arounds . . . still won't start <_> Charged battery . . . still won't start, and now the headlight won't come on when I switch on the key <_> Very frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callison Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Must one remove the tank to get to this pair of bullet connectors? 68905[/snapback] The bullet connectors are under the tank about where your fingers are. If you're back in town Phil, I can run on down and give you a hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 The bullet connectors are under the tank about where your fingers are. If you're back in town Phil, I can run on down and give you a hand. 68919[/snapback] Hey Carl. I found the connectors, cleaned them and added dielec grease. Guess that's not it. Are you in town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeBenGuzzi Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Maybe the Clutch switch itself is not working properly -member don't lose the ball. and if your relays are too far gone switching them around will either do nothing or make it worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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