orangeokie Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I had my seat off and battery out while installing a new rear hugger. This thing fell to the ground, and I can't figure out what it is nor where it fits. The key is added for perspective. Any guesses? BTW, the LeMans won't start now. Ignition on, oil light only (no neutral light) no starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballacraine Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Is it the back plate off the saddle lock? The shape looks vaguely familiar. Nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wick Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I know it is a simple thing, but, did you get all the wires reattached to the battery? Wick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 I know it is a simple thing, but, did you get all the wires reattached to the battery? Wick 92651[/snapback] Battery cables all connected. No neutral light. (First time for this) All other lights work. New battery. New relays. Starter won't turn over with side stand down. Side stand up, starters turns but no ignition. After reading dozens of "won't start" threads in the archives I'm thinking two things: 1. False neutral (hence no light) 2. Gear box neutral switch dirty Tomorrow I will cycle the gear box to try and find neutral (with green light) . . . if that doesn't work, can someone post a pic of the gear box neutral switch so i can locate it on my bike. Thanks. I know I can count on some help. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix42o Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Battery cables all connected.No neutral light. (First time for this) All other lights work. New battery. New relays. Starter won't turn over with side stand down. Side stand up, starters turns but no ignition. After reading dozens of "won't start" threads in the archives I'm thinking two things: 1. False neutral (hence no light) 2. Gear box neutral switch dirty Tomorrow I will cycle the gear box to try and find neutral (with green light) . . . if that doesn't work, can someone post a pic of the gear box neutral switch so i can locate it on my bike. Thanks. I know I can count on some help. Phil 93551[/snapback] It's on the left hand side, just forward and slightly below the remote resevoir for the shock (above the starter cover). It's really the only thing there. If it hasn't been messed with, it's a violet wire connected to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windchill Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 When mine turns over but won't start, its usually the relay for the fuel pump: I wiggle it about a bit, it whirrs into life and off we go!! I have learnt to strt the bike with my lid off, wherever we are, so that I can listen for the whirr before pressing the starter. Sorry if this is completly off track, but it works in gear or in neutral as long as the clutch is pulled in when you hit the button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 I wiggled the relays to no avail. I can't swear that I heard the fuel pump though. Good point. Thanks for the tip on the neutral switch location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted June 30, 2006 Author Share Posted June 30, 2006 I got the neutral light by recycling the gear shifter up and down a few times. However, I am now certain the fuel pump is not working. Ignition on and no "whirrr" from the pump. I played musical chairs with the relays, but still no pump. All fuses OK. I went ahead and ordered five new relays from Dan. Will try those and see what happens.. Any suggestions in the mean time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stogieBill Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Only because it hasn't been mentioned; make sure the kill switch isn't turned off. Good luck Orange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted July 1, 2006 Author Share Posted July 1, 2006 Only because it hasn't been mentioned; make sure the kill switch isn't turned off. Good luck Orange 93668[/snapback] Thanks Bill . . . been there, done that, but . . . she cranks but no start. No fuel pump sound when key on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenm Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Hi, Assuming that the problem is the fuel system relay, why not switch it out with another relay? It's highly unlikely that all 5 are bad. This will give you something to do until the 5 new relays arrive. -ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted July 1, 2006 Author Share Posted July 1, 2006 Hi, Assuming that the problem is the fuel system relay, why not switch it out with another relay? It's highly unlikely that all 5 are bad. This will give you something to do until the 5 new relays arrive. -ken 93797[/snapback] I already swapped 'em around. That's why I think I'm probably just pissin' in the wind with new relays. But I can't think of anything easy to check, short of hauling her in to the dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargoyle Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Have you tried bypassing the relay. Rig up a jumper with a switch and go directly from the battery to the output pin of the relay. You could also try going directly to the pump to see if it spins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenm Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 If it turns out that the pump is spinning, you may have the problem that I just had. On a recent ride, my bike started, then sputtered and then would not start. It basically showed vapor lock symptoms, except that I had just finished eating breakfast and the bike was parked in the shade for 45 minutes. The fuel pump worked, but was making a high pitched whine. After 20 minutes, it started and would run. I took no chances and headed home and then later to my dealer. The mechanic there tested the output of the pump and it was within specs. We decided that the problem was most likey the electronic petcock, which is a known issues with V11's. When they removed the petcock, one of the wires basically crumbled. This was most likely the problem. I rode the bike today and there were no problems, once I tightened the bolt on the negative battery terminal. So your problem may be a bad petcock too. Something to check. Regards, -ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Dave Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 I had my seat off and battery out while installing a new rear hugger. This thing fell to the ground, and I can't figure out what it is nor where it fits. The key is added for perspective. Any guesses? BTW, the LeMans won't start now. Ignition on, oil light only (no neutral light) no starter. 92592[/snapback] Back to the mystery part, I have an exact same part sitting on my work bench. So seems like mine has fallen off too. Everything seems to be working without it, but now my curiosity has grown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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