guzziownr Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 Trans oil changed, neutral switch swapped thanks to Moto Int. and Greg Field ("We stand by what we sell, it's a small showroom") Oil was milky, steel and rubber washer replaced by aluminum crush washer. Yucky swarf picture below: DW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaing Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 I think you need a bigger magnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard100t Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 That seems pretty normal to me. I saw the same thing when I changed my trans fluid. Btw I hope you used RedLine Heavy Shockproof, that made a big improvent in my bike. I havent drained the Redline from my tranny yet but I expect to see less of that metal on my magnet when I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzziownr Posted October 22, 2006 Author Share Posted October 22, 2006 That seems pretty normal to me. I saw the same thing when I changed my trans fluid. Btw I hope you used RedLine Heavy Shockproof, that made a big improvent in my bike. I havent drained the Redline from my tranny yet but I expect to see less of that metal on my magnet when I do. Thanks for the support. When my Jackal was new I saw a similar amount of swarf. Less as time went on. I wanted to use the redline but I don't know where to get it. (I am in NYC) Since I was changing the switch I did the oil as well. I just used the heaviest I could find in the auto store and plan to change again soon. DW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary Cheek Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 Thanks for the support. When my Jackal was new I saw a similar amount of swarf. Less as time went on. I wanted to use the redline but I don't know where to get it. (I am in NYC) Since I was changing the switch I did the oil as well. I just used the heaviest I could find in the auto store and plan to change again soon. DW WHich Red-Line shockproof? There are three different grades aren't there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard100t Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 WHich Red-Line shockproof? There are three different grades aren't there? Go for the Heavy Shockproof. Its good in the rear drive too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete roper Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 If the oil was milky looking it's because it's got water in it so it's formed a mayonaise. This is a particular problem on V11's, especially those regularly ridden in the rain, because the gearbox breather is directly in line with the spray from the rear tyre. To be honest it wasn't the Guzzi design shop's finest hour To prevent a reccurence of the problem it's possible to make a *shield* out of something, (It doesn't have to be as hideous as Greg's whiskey fueled inner-tube offering in the Bodge thread but that'll work fine ) A piece of perspex cut to fit in the triangular part of the shock cantilever brace and drilled so it can be retained by cable ties seems to be the commonest form I've seen but I haven't seen a lot of them so someone else will almost certainly have a better idea. As for the frag on the plug? Well, you'll always get frag. That does look a bit extreme to me but how serious it is will of course be dependent on how long it was since the oil was last changed and ow brutal you and the PO were with gearchanging. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzziownr Posted October 22, 2006 Author Share Posted October 22, 2006 ... A piece of perspex cut to fit in the triangular part of the shock cantilever brace and drilled so it can be retained by cable ties seems to be the commonest form I've seen ... I'll get right on that. As for the frag on the plug? Well, you'll always get frag. That does look a bit extreme to me but how serious it is will of course be dependent on how long it was since the oil was last changed and ow brutal you and the PO were with gearchanging. Pete Brutal gearchanging! My size 14s have the delicate touch of a ballet dancer. I do make more changes per mile than the average person. It's that NYC traffic. BTW how did the young 'n like our little town? SHE (who must be obeyed) ordered me 4 quarts of the best from these folks. http://www.hrpworld.com/RedLineShockproofG...;action=product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldini Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I'll get right on that.... Try a search. There's a few of us made em up & there was a a chap (Edge) made up a run of them for sale: search for Edge guard. Also I think it was Al R posted a measured drawing of one he made. I cut one from a racing # plate: very light but strong black plastic. Protects the shock too. KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twhitaker Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Edge makes a VERY fine EdgeGuard. It's black and textured so as to not be noticed. It fits into the swingarm nicely. It's formed to fit the tubes. I made one based on Al Rothlisberger's design which I replaced as soon as I saw Edge's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slug Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 If the oil was milky looking it's because it's got water in it so it's formed a mayonaise. This is a particular problem on V11's, especially those regularly ridden in the rain, because the gearbox breather is directly in line with the spray from the rear tyre. To be honest it wasn't the Guzzi design shop's finest hour To prevent a reccurence of the problem it's possible to make a *shield* out of something, (It doesn't have to be as hideous as Greg's whiskey fueled inner-tube offering in the Bodge thread but that'll work fine ) A piece of perspex cut to fit in the triangular part of the shock cantilever brace and drilled so it can be retained by cable ties seems to be the commonest form I've seen but I haven't seen a lot of them so someone else will almost certainly have a better idea. Instead of a shield, I removed the vent plug from the gearbox, lopped the cheesy little cap off and soldered in a small piece of 1/4" copper tube bent at 90 degrees. Put the plug back in, attached some rubber hose to the copper tube and ran the other end up underneath the seat where I knew spray wouldn't work its way in. Haven't had the pea soup/frothy pink in my gearbox since... I'd post pics if my digital camera wasn't such a hunk o' s**t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballacraine Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Edge did the business with this......Nicely fabricated and supplied with 'Janet & John' installation leaflet including pics. Top class job! Nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luhbo Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 If you touch the spikes it's probably only small flakes and metal powder. The magneto and the Moly build up such nice spikes, at least on my 66.000 kms used v11. Besides that, it probably won't live for ever... Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belfastguzzi Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Instead of a shield, I removed the vent plug from the gearbox, lopped the cheesy little cap off and soldered in a small piece of 1/4" copper tube bent at 90 degrees. Put the plug back in, attached some rubber hose to the copper tube and ran the other end up underneath the seat where I knew spray wouldn't work its way in. Haven't had the pea soup/frothy pink in my gearbox since... I'd post pics if my digital camera wasn't such a hunk o' s**t. The inner tube shield is pretty much an essential anyway (and at no cost) as it keeps crud off bits like the rear shock. I also put an extended breather tube up to under the seat, but didn't solder in a copper tube. Just take the cap off and wire on a hose. Belt and braces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryland3210 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Edge makes a VERY fine EdgeGuard. It's black and textured so as to not be noticed. It fits into the swingarm nicely. It's formed to fit the tubes. I made one based on Al Rothlisberger's design which I replaced as soon as I saw Edge's. Sounds great! Where do I get one of these gems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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