pete roper Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 OK, so lets get this bike up and running again. But lets do a bit of learning too, that means all of us. Gary is going to do all the stuff with the measuring sticks and sort out what's what. But S. has got to get the motor out of the frame and get it to him. Now while this is NOT going to be a huge issue for lots of blokes on this list for many others it probably seems like a major task. Yes? OK, so lets all do some learning here, me included. I've never actually had to do the bottom end on a V11 or any spiney so I've never actually pulled an engine, you can do EVERYRHING apart from pulling the crank with the engine in the frame. So lets start off by helping the boy get it out, (as it were.). Now whenever I've had to get at a clutch I've always 'Crabbed' the frame, not because it's easier but simply because I come from a long history of working on Tonti's and that seemed logical to me. Spiney experienced people seem to think that simply pulling the donk off the front of the gearbox is a far easier option. So lets get a run-down on that from someone who has actually done it rather than from me who hasn't. My first recommendation though would be to disconnect the battery and remove it. That way you don't risk frying anything by mistake. Then start disconnecting anything that looks like a wire OK, go to it! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete roper Posted December 2, 2006 Author Share Posted December 2, 2006 Whoops. Somehow this got in the banter bit. Can somone who moderates move it to the Tech bit? Thanks. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballacraine Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Well, I would agree that the best way to remove the short engine is from the front. That is the way I pulled mine apart after receiving similar advice & I found it worked very well. Nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeBenGuzzi Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 I'll be watching and learning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nogbad Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 So what was wrong with his bike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaing Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 So what was wrong with his bike? I am not sure. Something about "failure to lubricate" "bone dry" and "it's a blown motor... haul'n ass w/o due oil changes..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 OK, so lets get this bike up and running again. But lets do a bit of learning too, that means all of us. Gary is going to do all the stuff with the measuring sticks and sort out what's what. But S. has got to get the motor out of the frame and get it to him. Now while this is NOT going to be a huge issue for lots of blokes on this list for many others it probably seems like a major task. Yes? OK, so lets all do some learning here, me included. I've never actually had to do the bottom end on a V11 or any spiney so I've never actually pulled an engine, you can do EVERYRHING apart from pulling the crank with the engine in the frame. So lets start off by helping the boy get it out, (as it were.). OK, go to it! Pete I just read Jaap's post about the 5th anniversary of the forum and I have an idea! How about an online rebuild of this motor and have it all culminate with start up of the motor for the 5th birthday of the forum! I don't have much to contribute but I know of some pistons available after a swap to high comp pistons so I'll try and contribute whatever I can. What say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeBenGuzzi Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 I only have cosmetic bits laying around, but if I happen to have anything I'll contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary Cheek Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 You can almost do it more quickly than I can type it. Since I am a bit rushed I'll be breif. Support the bike upright with a pair of jack stands aft or a pit stand -aft. Like Pete said the battery first always. Next the tank comes off. Make sure to plug the open hoses and unplug ALL of the electrics, even the low fuel sender under the tank. The air boxes come off then I usually leave the throttle bodies intact and on the bike. So pull the clamps off the rubbers on the engine side. Wrestle that stuff off and support it to the bike. The vent hoses oil cooler hoses and misc elec connectors wil all be quite obvious. Once you have all of the umbilicals loose you now place some blocks and shims under the pan to pretty much just bear the weight of the engine. Pull off the front sub frame and if you are ambitous the front wheel (you don't really HAVE to but it does give more wiggle room. Next the starter and the tranny bolts. At this point a bit of bumping should have the motor break away from the trans. Slide it forward on the block you put in to bear the weight until it is free. If you still have the back of a thirty year old you can pick the engine up and set it on your bench. Otherwise have the wife do it. I may have misses a bolt or two but once you get into it the other parts will be obvious. You might want to practice this during the winter if you become bored. It will also give you a chance to inpect and maintain your clutch. Really it take about 2 hours if you are trying to get it done but why rush? It's a lot of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staedtler Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 How about an online rebuild of this motor and have it all culminate with start up of the motor for the 5th birthday of the forum! Hey Jim preciate it, belive me, i need a loot of help... ...i'll start taking thr engine out, by I i mean me and two other buddies....mechanically inclined Gary...i just printed your intructions, i'll need them... i post pics for y'all.... so, i just brought the guzzi back from the mechanic's. I'm out of town till monday, so i think i'll start about tuesday or wed.... i know there's going to be a bit of questions while trying to get this thing out and crated.. i'll keep y'all posted *be back on tue* btw...do you recomend having beer while performing these tasks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Jaap Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 btw...do you recomend having beer while performing these tasks? No problem... but please don't drink while you're writing on this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeBenGuzzi Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 I'd recommend this one but I drank the last one, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug123 Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 this might be of interest http://cgi.ebay.de/Kurbelwelle-Moto-Guzzi-...1QQcmdZViewItem The seller also has con rods for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzijack Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 I'd recommend this one but I drank the last one, sorry Better have one of mine then Only two bottles now left though GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callison Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 bike on paddock stand support the engine - jack, soap box, oversized beer swilling neighbor, whatever yank the tank unbolt intake hardware remove exhaust headers remove starter remove speedometer cable - prior to hosing it remove engine mount sub-frame at front (if you're not going to crab it) unbolt everything on the rest of the engine holding it in frame, pull it forward and remove it That's close to what it takes although I haven't actually done it that way. There's bound to be a bit more to it than that. My experience has been removing the transmission on a V11 Sport which entails most of these steps because you have to crab the frame. Removing the transmission takes about 1.5 hours for a klutz like me. Taking bigbikerricks B11 Sport (B for burned), was pretty much as above but a lot of stuff was already removed or just plain burned away. For that one, the engine remained positioned on a box or stand (don't recall) and the frame was unbolted and lifted off of the engine and transmission in pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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