Guest Nogbad Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 I put up one of these Bike Shed on the instructions of my insurance co. Yes, it is a good way of deterring the plug uglies. However, in winter the shed amasses condensation on the roof as the temperature varies, and water can get under the shed floor in torrential rain. This causes condensation on the bike, and even raining condensation from the roof. I have today taken up the floor and installed a second thick membrane to prevent water penetrating to the false floor, and over that 30mm of dense mineral wool slab to keep the floor warmer. Tomorrow I am insulating the roof with 25mm polystyrene slab, and the walls and doors will get the same treatment soon (can't fit enough slab into the car at once!). After the insulating cladding is in, I might fit a small electric heater to maintain the internal temperature 3° or so above the external ambient. Thank God I put the bikes away clean, and thoroughly sprayed with ACF50! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzziownr Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 However, in winter the shed amasses condensation on the roof as the temperature varies, and water can get under the shed floor in torrential rain. This causes condensation on the bike, and even raining condensation from the roof. How 'bout one of these for the roof: http://store.sundancesolar.com/ststsove.html It's stainless! DW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nogbad Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 How 'bout one of these for the roof: http://store.sundancesolar.com/ststsove.html It's stainless! DW The problem occurs after dark as the shed cools. Nice idea, but like most "renewable" energy solutions, you never get the power when you need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Wifey won't let you keep it in the house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nogbad Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Wifey won't let you keep it in the house? I guess I might be able to swing it, but our house is small. Better to make the shed more luxurious for the bikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callison Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 I'm probably going to have to get one of these so I can get the Ural out of the garage and make room for the Norge. Bike Barn Not cheap, but definitely cheaper than adding to the garage. Of course, if someone here were to buy one or two of my Guzzis really cheap, that would suffice for adding space as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I'm probably going to have to get one of these so I can get the Ural out of the garage and make room for the Norge. Bike Barn Not cheap, but definitely cheaper than adding to the garage. Of course, if someone here were to buy one or two of my Guzzis really cheap, that would suffice for adding space as well... Carl, so you are really going to get a Norge? I just got back in town the day before Thanksgiving. When all this snow and ice melts and it gets a bit warmer lets go for a ride. Are you getting the Norge out of Witchita? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve G. Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I put up one of these Bike Shed on the instructions of my insurance co. Yes, it is a good way of deterring the plug uglies. However, in winter the shed amasses condensation on the roof as the temperature varies, and water can get under the shed floor in torrential rain. This causes condensation on the bike, and even raining condensation from the roof. I have today taken up the floor and installed a second thick membrane to prevent water penetrating to the false floor, and over that 30mm of dense mineral wool slab to keep the floor warmer. Tomorrow I am insulating the roof with 25mm polystyrene slab, and the walls and doors will get the same treatment soon (can't fit enough slab into the car at once!). After the insulating cladding is in, I might fit a small electric heater to maintain the internal temperature 3° or so above the external ambient. Thank God I put the bikes away clean, and thoroughly sprayed with ACF50! May I recommend a light bulb to keep things warm. On my dad's old 50 ft ship, we used to keep a 40 watt light bulb in the lower portion of the engine bay [heat rises] to keep things warm and dry. And this was at dock on the ocean. I think less dangerous than a heater. Ciao, Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callison Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Carl, so you are really going to get a Norge? I just got back in town the day before Thanksgiving. When all this snow and ice melts and it gets a bit warmer lets go for a ride. Are you getting the Norge out of Witchita? MPH, Houston, it should get there Wednesday. Uncertain as to just when I'll get down there. Hopefully by this coming weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badmotogoozer Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I guess I might be able to swing it, but our house is small. Better to make the shed more luxurious for the bikes. Could keep the wifey in the shed... Rj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeBenGuzzi Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 maybe buy some shingles and put a real roof on dat bich could always get some cedar and maybe line the inside ceiling with it. the really cheap stuff, cedar works wonders, soaks up lots of water and doesn't promote mold or bacteria, hear it helps keep bugs away too. then your roof would be less likely to drip. or so I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nogbad Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 maybe buy some shingles and put a real roof on dat bich could always get some cedar and maybe line the inside ceiling with it. the really cheap stuff, cedar works wonders, soaks up lots of water and doesn't promote mold or bacteria, hear it helps keep bugs away too. then your roof would be less likely to drip. or so I imagine. Cedar is difficult to come by in the UK, I would have to order from a specialist and it wouldn't be as cheap as my planned cladding using 25mm expanded polystyrene and a 6mm plywood facing. This will give me a very low u value and the suggested 40W bulb will be ample as an anticondensation heater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g.forrest Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Cedar is difficult to come by in the UK, I would have to order from a specialist and it wouldn't be as cheap as my planned cladding using 25mm expanded polystyrene and a 6mm plywood facing. This will give me a very low u value and the suggested 40W bulb will be ample as an anticondensation heater. go 9mm ply..not much diff in price,,and holds up much longer. oil well! looking for somewhere for that used sump gunk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeBenGuzzi Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Cedar is difficult to come by in the UK, I would have to order from a specialist and it wouldn't be as cheap as my planned cladding using 25mm expanded polystyrene and a 6mm plywood facing. This will give me a very low u value and the suggested 40W bulb will be ample as an anticondensation heater. I didn't realize, cedar is somewhat inexpensive here, considering some ppl build whole decks out of the stuff. its not cheap but certainly not that expensive. friend of mine built a neat 12ft cedar strip boat. your idea sounds great too put that bulb on a timer and save on some electric as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzijack Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Cedar is difficult to come by in the UK, I would have to order from a specialist and it wouldn't be as cheap as my planned cladding using 25mm expanded polystyrene and a 6mm plywood facing. This will give me a very low u value and the suggested 40W bulb will be ample as an anticondensation heater. Better idea is a tubular electric heater from all good electrical wholesalers. Cost about £10, use as much electricity as a light bulb but have thermostatic control. GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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