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35 minutes ago, Scud said:
.and why a Moto Guzzi? nothing beats the feel of the Guzzi engine under full load climbing a mountain. For example, this is a mountain. Feels like summer at the base, but winter at the summit.
Thanks for the suspension tips, I need reminding of taking care of some of the basics.
I have to agree with your impressions of climbing a mountain with a guzzi at full boil.
The first time I really experienced it, was a few years ago early in the spring on my CalVin. The snow had been melted around my house for quite a while and for the first time ever in my life, I started riding up the Opeongo Rd at Dacre,with no snow on the ground. The Opeongo Rd winds it's way up the mountain, cutting through deep isolated bush to the highest civilized point in Ontario at Foymount. The pipes echoing off the wilderness were nirvana, but I went into full panic mode 2/3s of the way up, when I couldn't hear the pipes or the glorious mechanical cacophony any longer, the bike sounded like it was dying, I thought I had a major mechanical failure, screwed, stuck deep in the wilderness; took me a long while to realize my ears had popped from the change in altitude & air pressure,lol.
At the top of the mountain, the snowbanks in the shade were still at least 6-7 ft tall, the drops in temp had to be 15-20 degrees.
That climb up the Opeongo Rd, with my thundering guzzis at full throttle, even with the poor, chip tar seal road surface is probably my favorite road to ride.
I've ridden down the mountain a few times, but you're right, it's just not the same as the climb.
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1 hour ago, docc said:
Remember, the V11 ECU richens the start-up mixture the first 6,000 rpm (IIRC) every time it is started. This aspect certainly can drizzle raw fuel out the throttle body shafts.
Docc, Does the ignition key have to be turned off for the ECU to reset and send that "richen" signal for the first 6000 rpm, or just back to run then start?
Does it only go through that richen cycle when it's cold, or even if it's hot at running temps?
tia
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3 hours ago, Tom in Virginia said:
Sent message to Bob Marsh, no reply. Always wonder about folks that post stuff of the like and "have no idea on value". Hmmm....
A couple of years ago, Curtis Harper picked up and flogged quite a few NOS sets of these exhausts/ECUs, iirc the retail price was crazy, but he was selling them just a little over 1/2 retail..
If you're really serious, It might be worth your while to place a quick call to Harpers and ask him what he sold them for, fwiw, fyi.
ps I did a search on wg and found the info from Curtis,, cc'd below fyi good luck
That Titanium Racing exhaust with racing ECU system is now in stock for 1999 thru 2001 V11 Sport, V11 Lemans, In stock now, six pieces left. $1000 each Original price $1400. Includes peg mounts, all hardware and even instruction book. I got a deal on them, so do you. Ship worldwide
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I picked up a well farkled 2007 Griso with around 40K? kms for a decent price.
I like the idea of all my guzzis being the same familiar, reliable 2V design. fwiw jmo
I love the look of the Griso 4V in the Tenni green and the later red SE, but I really don't need the extra power or the headaches of worrying about the flat tappets possibly being an issue.
If you consider a 4V bike, make sure it's rollerized; I know personally of one dealer who fudged the registration date for a couple of leftover Grisos; at some point someone will be getting a nasty surprise.
The roller kits are becoming scarcer as time goes on and depending on the bike there are apparently 3? different kits to remedy the problem.
The Griso Ghetto is a wealth of knowledge, worthy for any prospective owner.
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Welcome aboard Ratso88;
Colt, as you can probably tell, the Mighty Scura is a somewhat mystical legendary bike among us guzzisti.
I know how much it meant to Chuck, to ensure that it was placed in the care of the right hands.
I get the impression he was successful in achieving that goal.
Wishing you many safe miles and smiles on your new ride.
Kelly
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19 minutes ago, p6x said:
What is the maximum temperature the exhaust cross over experiences? The most resistant compound to temperature is Kalrez.
Idk what the temps would be. It's a lower crossover under the sump so not crazy hot, but obviously hot enough to ensure failure of the O rings.
Anything that seems to be easily obtainable, evaporates and disappears in a very short time.
I'll be filing all this info away and will definitely keep that Kalrez material in mind.
Tks very much
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On 2/2/2022 at 10:04 AM, Scud said:
Quite the education on O-rings. And I know that in high-reliability environments (mining, aviation, etc.), a mistake can be costly or deadly (Space Shuttle Challenger explosion).
A few years ago, I went down the rabbit hole of trying to find durable O rings to seal the cross over on the Lafranconi exhaust on my CX (which is the most idiotic design ever, jmho)
In my search, I spoke with the parts buyer at my local Freco Hydraulic shop, she advised me that since the space shuttle failure, O rings can be purchased made out of all sorts of miracle materials, money not being a consideration, she could get O rings that retailed for $600 Canadian a piece, I went with Vitons, iirc $10 @ dozen.
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I think I would've been content at 110 lbs lighter with 4" higher bars, and extra seat foam, but It sure looks the biz.
I can't help but wonder how much lighter his wallet was
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6 hours ago, Gmc28 said:
Thanks gentlemen.
MG cycle has gaskets, but I don’t see that they’re Valpolini (?)I can order straight from Valpolini if it’s worth the wait? Not a big deal, just am finally getting to the winter maintenance on Red, and Greenie will follow, and noodling whether to order the usual gaskets or try the Valpolini that many have talked about.
For some reason they never list the brand name, but I think these are the ones you're looking for.
https://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=170_174&products_id=4634
Over the years with different bikes, parts and supply deals, I've accumulated, probably a couple dozen, of different valve cover gaskets; they'll collect dust forever, because I won't waste my time putting in anything but these good ones.
Re the silicon gaskets mentioned elsewhere; my Griso came with a set of those and I thought I was set for life; wrong
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At some point they had obviously been over tightened, and the cover had cut into the gasket, they were destined for failure as well.
As ham fisted as I am, once I followed the gospel of Pete and converted to the metal cored gaskets, I've never had one of them fail.
fwiw ymmv
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If you're thinking of tackling any job to do with the clutch M/C; imo I'd read up on Scud's ingenious idea to eliminate a nightmare and install a remote bleeder line from a Griso or Stelvio.
I still curse when I think of trying to bleed that sucker, rebuilding the m/c would be the nightmare 10 fold for my meager skill set.
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On my 2003 Lemans, riders left, there is an similar looking piece at the bottom of an adjustment contraption that adjusts the aiming? of the headlight bucket.
Mine has a slot cut in the bottom for a screw driver, and appears to be threaded and mounted with a slotted boss at the top to locate it on the bracket, then passes up through the middle of a spring with a nut at the top.
Just a wag but yours is probably a variation of the same mechanism in that location with a slightly different design.
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I'm not sure when the American V8 started their basic design, but I just watched this video that had been posted over on WG. The basic guzzi engine, drive shaft design has been around a lot longer than I thought. fwiw
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From the Google, German to English translation in the a/m link that LP posted above;
Wth is this in laymen's terms "It is also the first Moto Guzzi to be equipped with a six-axle inertia platform (IMU)"
I take it that it would be something instead of the CARC system, but 6 axles?
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On 3/9/2020 at 10:54 PM, 80CX100 said:
Hey Foot; Thanks very much for the reminder, donation is a done deal.
Jaap, thank you for having the vision to create this place and the dedication to keep it going;
This forum may not have the biggest numbers, but it fights way above it's weight class. The information is invaluable, and the community support is off the charts, the recent improved shift spring & Roper plate deal are evidence of an online forum community second to none.
Docc, tks for keeping things in order and running smoothly making it as enjoyable and productive an experience as possible.
Thanks to everyone that makes this place as special as it is; props and kudos to all of you.
Hurry up spring, ride safe and often!
Kelly
I'll echo my previous words and bump this back up to the top as a gentle reminder of how great this place is.
When I tried to donate last night, Paypal was throwing a hissy fit, and wouldn't let my CC go through, so I had to back out and take a 2nd run at it, and it worked fine.
Just a helping heads up if you're trying to throw some support Jaap's way to keep this excellent resource going.
Tks again to all who make this place as special as it is.
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If you were interested in it, but didn't get out to one of the screenings, they've just released the Motorcycle Man DVDs about Dave Roper for sale, Santa's bringing mine
https://www.motorcyclemanfilm.com/store/motorcycle-man-dvd
MOTORCYCLE MAN DVD
20.00
Own a copy of Motorcycle Man on DVD and enjoy the film along with special features such as deleted scenes and extended interview outtakes. More than 80 minutes combined!Dave Roper is a legend, but he carries himself with such humility, I don't think there's a finer gentleman worthy of supporting.
A Class Act
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I don't know if quirky is appropriate, I would reserve that to describe the traits on some of the UJM's I've had, my Suzuki DL1000 VStrom had hours worth of tupperware to remove just to see what had to be removed to do a valve adjustment; all held together with magical rubiks cube plastic fasteners that only divulged the magic password after you broke a few. The top notch engineers at Suzuki after much design work and testing, determined that Oxygen was the best material for the seat for the hydraulic clutch seal, now that's Quirky, but I digress
Guzzis at the core, are pretty straight forward, simple engineering, that reward hands on involved ownership.
If every time a valve cover leaks, the sump drips a bit of oil, the side stand bolt loosens, the grounds get corroded, you want to make a run ro a dealer to fix the peripheral nigglies, I think you're setting yourself up for a world of heartache.
For that matter, just trying to find a dealer can be an exercise in frustration , let alone find one that can do quality work.
Guzzis reward what you put into them imo, I've never felt that planted on pavement on any other brand, the engine powerband has a character that works well in the real world.
I will admit to having more of a fondness for the flowing gracefulness of the Tonti framed bikes, you can tell when you work on a Spine frame that they evolved on a race track, added brace, changed this or that, bolted together here there and everywhere, it's quite the collection of fastenings, brackets and bits.
fwiw ymmv
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4 hours ago, Weegie said:
Valtec tensioners can have their problems too,
Absolutely.
Not being naturally mechanically inclined, I research every job I do, ad nauseum.
I had read many times on the difficulty of getting the new Valtec tensioner into proper position and that it was tough, it wouldn't break, just force it into place.
I proved that theory wrong and the brittle plastic broke right at the metal support/pivot post, and I had to order a replacement.
I think I was lucky that it broke right before my eyes and I had a chance to correct the problem with a new one. More gently installed the 2nd time, by disassembling it, and reassembling it in proper position.
I've subsequently read of a catastrophic engine failure due to the Valtec breaking apart, hidden out of view; I'm sure that the point of failure was at the same stress point, but if it cracks during installation and you don't realize it, you can pay a high price later on for an obvious weak spot in the design.
fwiw ymmv
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1 hour ago, motoguzznix said:
This is not just a theory, it can be proven - install a valtec type chain tensioner and check spark scatter with a timing light - you will see it disappeared compared with the slacky stock tensioner.
When I did the timing chain and installed the Valtec tensioner on my CX100 it only had 24k miles on it, but it was loose and sloppy enough to have started to wear inside the case.
You could really feel a difference in how much tighter and uniform the whole ignition timing/firing system was.
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Yup, I thought the same thing when I saw that bike for sale; if it's legit, in decent shape, good bargain.
The prices are rising on those in Canada, I'm guesstimating, with that mileage, it would list for at least 6-7+ up here.
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If that is a Givi 755 (looks like it with similar hardware).
I picked up an old one on kijiji cheap, intending to use it on my G5, so I'll be following this thread closely.
Hopefully someone with knowledge or experience chimes in.
Good luck and tks for the post
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3 hours ago, VtwinStorm said:With the limited clearance under the seat, mounting the battery basket below the seat frame might be worth looking at to clear those angled connectors. This drops the battery about 14mm, IIRC.
Docc, you are awesome, man.
Thank you.
With the challenges I had on a variety of tight clearance issues working on the V11, I tried to do this relocation of the battery tray twice, it sounded easy and simple enough; I gave up in frustration on both unsuccessful attempts.
Iirc the main challenge on my bike, was one of the threaded nut tabs was off kilter and welded too close to the frame rail.
The 3rd successful attempt, involved bucket loads of patience, a variety of new longer bolts, and I may have had to resort to the use of a file, but I was very glad to finally relocate the tray mounted underneath the tabs;
As you're learning, it's a tight fit in there and every mm of extra clearance is a good thing.
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I agree, I've been stung in the past ordering a big bulky "in stock" item and filling the box up with little items I didn't need to help with the high International shipping costs, and ended up without the item I really wanted.
When Curtis recently canvassed for information to improve their site & business, I mentioned that carrying the good black wire reinforced valve cover gaskets (Valopini sp?) would be nice.
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Hey FG, tks for posting that.
Are you going to do likewise on WG?
I'm glad to see Harpers taking the right steps to move their business forward.
When I was completely clueless, and a newbie guzzi owner, I luckily placed my first phone call to Harpers. Curtis patiently and kindly took the time to walk me through the basic essentials of what I should be doing, to take the best care of my 30 yr old, new to me guzzi.
I'll be forever in Curis's debt.
I'll have to search out and get on that email list, I've seen some of the special parts and deals he's come across in the past.
tks very much.
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So I bought another bike today....
in Special place for banter and conversation
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Joe I love it. It's a beautiful looking little bike with nice classic flat tracker lines, I think it looks the biz!
At that age fun is the priority, plug it in, twist the throttle, instant smile generator, win, win, win.
He'll have plenty of time and opportunity later if he chooses, to jump into the ICE game and worry about oil, spark plug changes, getting a part time job to pay for gas, repairs and tuneups; and deal with the inevitable occasional times the smile generator won't start and have to tackle the black magic voo doo of lack of spark, fuel etc,
I think it's cool that you still have your rebadged Indian from back in the day.