Dan M

Ha,ha,ha,ha, cough,cough, ha,ha,ha. Please, stop.. cough, I can't breathe. With the exception of all of your new friends here, part of the eccentric quirks you are buying into is, for the most part, you are on your own.

Go for the gold. I'll swap my black ones with you and even pay the shipping.

Sure does. You guys in mountainous areas don't know how good you have it.

Sounds like you are shopping for the right bike for your needs. Few come closer to quirky and eccentric than the Moto Guzzi. It also has an instant heirloom quality to it. The motor has more character than any modern bike I can think of. I don't know what Ducati you have in the mix. The typical modern Ducati is faster, lighter and handles better than the V11. Still, go for the V11, you won't regret it. As for price, that is a good question. Since there is a limited number of these out there the price should be fairly stable for a good example regardless of year. That said I don't know what that price is. I'd think you can narrow some from Gene's 5-9 estimate. Maybe more like 6-8 thousand. I know I wouldn't part with my 02 for less than 6. Maybe that means I'll have it forever.

+1 Nigel has it.

A vacuum regulator is not about richening at redline, it is about richening upon throttle opening. However, with the regulator disconnected the pressure is always high so if someone were to complain they would likely be complaining about it being too rich with the throttle closed. A bottle would store vacuum so the vacuum will not drop instantly when the throttle is opened so that bulky set up would be of little value. It is indeed academic, the system will not work on this motor. Still, a valid question from flyboy so why not an accurate explanation?

Go for it Dave and report your results. I'd be interested to know what you find. I'd suggest buying a cheap mechanical vacuum gauge and look at vacuum fluctuations with it though. I use a Twinmax as well, great tool but it is not a good indicator of pulses nor does it measure vacuum. It indicates the difference from cylinder to cylinder. If you use bleed screws to reduce port size also watch reaction speed to throttle opening and closings. It should be instantaneous and if you are regulating it down to very low flow I'd imagine you are slowing it also. It takes a certian amount of flow to overcome the spring with the diaphragm. A mechanical gauge is the best way to see and understand what is happening and you can get a cheap one at most any auto parts store.

Not to start yet another argument here but here are a few points that have been covered before. The spring inside the regulator takes about 7-10"Hg vacuum to overcome so atmosphere plays no roll whatsoever. The regulator is designed to reduce fuel pressure with when vacuum is applied by 5 to 10 psi. It has two pressure values and is not variable. (with vacuum applied to the point of overcoming the internal spring and without - like an on / off switch) A vacuum diaphragm type regulator is designed for use in a multi-cylinder application where vacuum is steady. The Guzzi motor's manifold vacuum pulses wildly, especially at idle. (hook up a vacuum gauge and observe for yourself - the needle will be a blur even if you tee both cylinders together, I've tried it) The idea behind vacuum regulators is reduced fuel pressure at closed throttle (high vacuum) and instantly increased pressure when the throttle is opened (low vacuum). Every system that has one operates this way and I'm sure it is what Guzzi intended when the system was drawn up. The trouble comes in when the twin cylinder engine does not produce steady vacuum, (which the guzzi lump will not, and can not) this causes the diaphragm to flutter not only fatiguing the diaphragm but also not regulating steady pressure. It seems that this was discovered and the diaphragm was then just left disconnected. I've witnessed that these bikes run a bit fat at idle. If you apply vacuum with an outside vacuum source to the regulator the idle cleans up nicely. The trouble is there is no steady vacuum from the motor so the system will not work the way it was intended. Bottom line, leave it disconnected.... * For the hairsplitters: I hope my use of the language was clear and concise. Please report any grammar or spelling errors or any misunderstandings and I will attempt to clarify* PS; Welcome to the forum Flyboy. Buckle up, it may be a bumpy ride.

Must be a regional thing. Around here the goal is to get a beaver in your sleeping bag. Here's a good article for the Bourbon drinkers. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...ml?hpid=topnews

This is the only pic of it I have on this computer. I'll take a shot of the whole bike and post when time permits

Harley sells a black wrinkle (or crinkle) engine paint. AFAIK there is only one to choose from and like most Harley stuff it is overpriced. Works pretty well though.

DAD! THEY"RE FIGHTING AGAIN!

Marvic Piuma

Can't wait to see where this goes.

+1 Mine is at the point of rubbing the side covers like Ratchet described.

It is pretty hard to take a lot of weight off but you can make one feel lighter. I've cut about 29lbs from mine. Most of the weight savings came from lighter wheels and mufflers. That and a proper suspension set up makes it feel and steer like a lighter bike. Still quite a way from from a modern sport bike though.

Some racing that was. Were you in postition to see the last lap pass Spies did to take the checker? Quite a battle at the end.

Respect!

In case anyone is interested, here are the part numbers for the air charge temp sensor and the pigtail Sensor: Standard Ign. - # AX32 CarQuest - # 72-4502 A/C Delco - # 213-243 Pigtail: Standard Ign - # S556 A/C Delco - # PT307 I have found that unit from Standard is shorter in over all length than the A/C Delco. - May be better for clearance issues.

Nice job on the cut

Sorry, I try to be concise and certainly not vague. Sometimes I try to avoid redundancy so repeating what has already been posted as is the case with the sensor is omitted. I feel like if someone is participating and arguing, they have read what has preceded. As you know lengthy posts draw fire around here. (BQ) You have mocked RH and myself. You dissect every word to look for fault then you whine about insults and ask for politeness. It is a two way street Dave.

RAY!, STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER! PUT YOUR MOUSE DOWN AND JUST STEP AWAY! Yes - leave well enough alone......This is truly an area of YMMV, as you can see. BTW, welcome to the asylum.

Guzzimoto, you need to comprehend what you read a little better. Perhaps you should reread the old posts more slowly. For the last time, I said the thermistor was vented, not the holder. (there is atmosphere inside the holder, it is the same stuff we breathe, just sealed inside) I never said air conducts temperature better than metal. I never said my bike ran lean before adding conductive paste. I also never said I used an air temp sensor. Please give examples of what I have "wrapped in BS" My theory from the start of this (if you read this from the start and understood) is that the engineers decided to use the air gap inside the plastic holder to smooth the temp readings and avoid reading the temp spikes associated with an air cooled engine. (all the reasons why have been discussed at length) Following that line of thought, since it is air temp inside the holder that is being read, it would follow that if you sensed the air with an air temp sensor you would get a faster response and still avoid the temp spikes. Ratchet agrees with this theory. He took it further and adapted an air temp sensor and has shown positive results. These are just my thoughts and they happen to agree with RH. His work or play has worked out for him. Now I'm not asking you to swallow any of this. I really don't care if you do. I'm just asking you to stop misinterpreting plain English or taking things out of context. That behavior is what I consider moronic.

A smear of extra virgin olive oil may help speed transfer.

Come on Jaap, this has been great fun. Never before have we had so many write so much about so little. It seems to have run its course now though. All the facts have been posted and re-posted. All that is left is the shouting.... Look at the numbers 55 pages, 811 replies, 23000+ views. Almost, dare I say it, like a Honda forum.