2000 Redframe on deck

[docc]

For me, I find the cast Frame Side Plates ("stilettos") of our V11 Spine Frames, and the Centauro/1100 Sport-i, to be objects of absolute beauty.

The original Daytona/ SPOrT 1100 side plates?

"These things are industrial grade. Almost indestructable"
-Starlord

[audiomick]

20 minutes ago, docc said:

The original Daytona/ SPOrT 1100 side plates?

"These things are industrial grade. Almost indestructable"
-Starlord

I like them. They have their own "form follows function" charm.

Edited April 16 by audiomick

[docc]

18 minutes ago, audiomick said:

I like them. They have their own "form follows function" charm.

The original Moto Guzzi (spine) Frame Side Plates were on Dr. John's 1987 (2-valve/square fin) ProTwins racer.

That first SpineFrame was hand built in Pennsylvania and the side plates (which Dr. John was quoted as saying, "They are a great place to stuff a sandwich " [paraphrase] ) are inscribed "HOLLOWAY" on the left and "DR JOHN" on the right. Get the book, you'll love it . . .

reference courtesy of https://www.motoitaliane.it/en/prodotto/dr-johns-moto-guzzi/

[Pressureangle]

47 minutes ago, docc said:

For me, I find the cast Frame Side Plates ("stilettos") of our V11 Spine Frames, and the Centauro/1100 Sport-i, to be objects of absolute beauty.

The original Daytona/ SPOrT 1100 side plates?

"These things are industrial grade. Almost indestructable"
-Starlord

I'm not so enamored, nor prefer the early ones. But hey, *something* has to be there and get to all the attachment points...form follows function. I haven't looked close enough to ask whether the later style are cast or forged...I'm guessing cast. 
It appears by the picture that the earlier porkchops had a narrower swingarm through the pivot. I can't recall on the 'Sport whether they're flat, or widened, or in between. Ah, pic says wider; 

 

[docc]

I would love to know who designed the beautiful, cast Frame Side Plates.

Marabese Design? Rodolfo Frascoli?

Did the Centauro have them first (1996)? If so, I would suggest Rodolfo Frascoli of Marabese Design (at that time) is the designer.

[audiomick]

22 minutes ago, docc said:

... cast Frame Side Plates.

Did the Centauro have them first (1996)? ...

I found some picture at Stein-Dinse. Assuming they are accurate, the Centauro did indeed have a similar side plate to the V11. I can't tell from the pictures, though, if they were exactly identical. 

Centauro:

 

 

V11:

 

The part numbers are very close, though.

Centauro: 01415850

One V11 version: 01415890, another V11 version: 01415830.

Maybe the difference is only the colour.

 

PS: it seems the Daytona RS had them too:

https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/moto guzzi/moto_guzzi_daytona_rs 94.htm

And a picture from the Wikipedia

Franken-Guzzista, CC BY-SA 4.0 <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0>, via Wikimedia Commons

Edited April 17 by audiomick

[Pressureangle]

My sideplates came today from TLM Netherlands.  

They took the nuts off the pivot bolts. 

I am angry, and my email said so. 

I am still angry. I didn't need the side plates or the footpegs, or even 2 pins. I needed a pin and a nut. 

Angry

[docc]

On 4/14/2025 at 6:49 PM, Pressureangle said:

I ordered a set of 1100 Sport-i sideplates with pivot pins included from TLM. Either way they should work.

Are the NOS or take-offs from a parts bike?

Did you have to order the plates as right and left part numbers and the pins as separate numbers?

 

[gstallons]

9 hours ago, Pressureangle said:

My sideplates came today from TLM Netherlands.  

They took the nuts off the pivot bolts. 

I am angry, and my email said so. 

I am still angry. I didn't need the side plates or the footpegs, or even 2 pins. I needed a pin and a nut. 

Angry

How much (if you don't mind ) did they cost ? 

[Pressureangle]

The plates are used , the top hole in the right side is going to take some judicious prying and whacking to get back square and round. 

But that was clear in the photos. TLM had them listed separately, complete with pegs, pins, nuts, etc. All in the door for ~$135.

[docc]

And the dimensions/shape/ offsets of the 1100 plates look identical to the early V11?

[Pressureangle]

Just now, docc said:

And the dimensions/shape/ offsets of the 1100 plates look identical to the early V11?

Ah well, these are red so actually V11 plates- I'm out on the road for a month but may bring the 'Sport back home to compare. It lives in Georgia now, where I'm at in the moment to hand.

[Pressureangle]

Whelp, back in town for a few weeks...

The Oberon clutch slave arrived, and it's a no-go. The bore is 2mm wider, and the piston is completely different. 

A question not clearly answered is, 'why was this transmission taken out anyway?'
It appears that someone had tried to remove the clutch slave, and the case finish around it is destroyed- so either it's been bled a lot of times or it was leaking badly, or both. Two screws came easily, the third had evidence of failure and did not come easily, though with proper tools and technique it came out without horns or heat. So I'll assume the poor bike fell to ruin over a clutch slave cylinder and some misunderstanding. 

[Pressureangle]

oh btw who with a 2005-up needs a nice shiny new red slave cylinder?

[docc]

1 hour ago, Pressureangle said:

oh btw who with a 2005-up needs a nice shiny new red slave cylinder?

By "2005-up", this means CARC series?