swooshdave Posted 7 hours ago Author Posted 7 hours ago 3 hours ago, Goofman said: Thanks for sharing the photos of your Barber's Vintage trip. I've actually been to the first 12 or so; got several of the same shots in the Museum (not of Bucees). It does inspire me to go again. I'm trying to talk my 81 years old brother into going, but health issues have delayed that trip. I am very fortunate to be able to go with my brother and my friends. 2
audiomick Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 44 minutes ago, swooshdave said: ... Getting good sound at an event like that is nearly impossible for anyone but professionals and even then it would be a challenge. I beg to differ. Yes, the "right" gear is very, very expensive, and most people don't have it. Making the most out of what you have is, on the other hand, merely a matter of understanding what is causing the problems, and improvising. Like I said: wind protection on the mic, and figuring out how to edit such that there is no click in the audio. What do I know about audio? Only as much as about 40 years as a sound technician teaches one. Whatever, it is great that the man makes the effort to make the videos. My motivation is more to try and give him tips to make it better than to wantonly criticise his work. Edited 6 hours ago by audiomick 1
audiomick Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 36 minutes ago, audiomick said: ... Like I said: wind protection on the mic,... Incidentally, if one is working outdoors, that is the first thing that one takes care of. Because it is fairly easy to sort out, and makes a huge difference.
docc Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago I went to the Barber Vintage Festival for ten years (missed its first year). Ended up building a couple great routes there and back without using the "Interstate" or major highways. 200-280 miles / 320-450 km of backroads, valleys, and ridge crossings, bypassing every town possible. Just fabulous. The event, itself, is equally fabulous and the video really stresses how the attendees, how the myriad, unparalleled motorcycle-ism is intoxicating, even overwhelming. I so appreciate the "man on the ground" style of the video as I felt I was walking around with my friends, hearing the gentle chatter in the background, bikes being started and revved; the passersby, the tram ride; always the racing going on. Looking forward to Part 2 ! (Part 3?) 1
audiomick Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 9 minutes ago, docc said: ... the "man on the ground" style of the video... Yes, he captured that very well. 1
swooshdave Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, audiomick said: Incidentally, if one is working outdoors, that is the first thing that one takes care of. Because it is fairly easy to sort out, and makes a huge difference. The reality is that he went there with just the idea of capturing video and it was my fault for coming up with the interviews. So we did the best with what we had. Which was not a lot. He had to massively tweak the audio to take out the excessive noise of racing bikes, etc. If you heard the raw audio you would be impressed it came out at all. 2
docc Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 21 minutes ago, swooshdave said: The reality is that he went there with just the idea of capturing video and it was my fault for coming up with the interviews. So we did the best with what we had. Which was not a lot. He had to massively tweak the audio to take out the excessive noise of racing bikes, etc. If you heard the raw audio you would be impressed it came out at all. It made me feel like I was (back) there. Thanks for the memories. 1
audiomick Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 35 minutes ago, swooshdave said: ... he went there with just the idea of capturing video... and no audio at all? I don't believe that. Ok, I'm being a bit provocative, but bear with me. The audio is mostly good, and it is obvious from the end result that he is working with a program that can do relatively elegant things with the audio, independant of the video edits. What disturbs me is the wind noise in some segments, and the clicks and jumps in quite a lot of the edits. As far as the wind noise goes, if audio is being recorded at all, particularly outdoors, that should be taken into consideration. Coping with it is not that hard, and not expensive. Sure, one can spend quite lot of money on "audio transparent" wind shields, but one can also achieve very good results with a block of cheap, lightweight foam rubber, or maybe a couple of layers of nylon pantyhose. If nothing has been brought along to cope with that, taping a sock over the microphone would also help. As far as the edits go, as mentioned, he is obviously working with a program that can do a fair bit with the audio. Doing a cross-fade across the edits, or a fade-out and fade-in, should be possible, and would improve the end result considerably. Edited 4 hours ago by audiomick
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