g.forrest Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 you've hit the nail on the head, as the saying goes alex..yes it is all abought the fear of the world policeman that the world economy might be based on the euro, middle east included, as sadam was working toward.and not the allmighty american dollar . quote=Alex-Corsa,Feb 1 2006, 04:46 AM] Oh how , I do like France Thank God they stood up and said U.S . to mind their own bussines when they keep on putting their hands on territories they don't belong such as try putting Turkey in E.U. I agree that this is a bike forum but since some like to take it further here it is.... And Y'know something else?, this world saviour role is something the whole world is fed up with , it ain't truth.The wolrd knows who's the big dictator of nowdays in this planet. And another truth is, that Euro has beaten the s**t out of the dollar as currency and some guys in a big island over the atlantic are upset and try to break the unity of Europe union. And that' a short paragraph , sorry to some ,but you had it comming. 76619[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nogbad Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 The simple truth is that the way we do things at the moment depends on transporting everything long distances is a wholly unsustainable way. Eventually, what we need will have to be made more locally. The EU way is as unsustainable as the US way. Globalisation is bunk, but history shows that bunk ways of doing things make people rich in the short term, and human life is a short term event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldini Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Blimey! Just shows - the world over, we live in our own little bubbles, with our own views on the good guys & the bad. WE won the war, THEY won the war, None of it is THE TRUTH. Opinion, that's all any of it is - an accumulation of our family's & our society's experience, knowledge & prejudices. I cannot (tho I constantly do) assume that someone on the other side of the world shares my view eg: how this little lot started - an islander assumes that all imports must inevitably be from across a sea, & other islanders share his assumption. For him this is TRUE but not so for a man living on a continent containing many nations. They assume that cos that man says something according to his situation that does not accord with their's, that he is STUPID. Then go further & insult him & his, by voicing that ignorant assumption. This is the excuse for the axe-grinders to get to work. In the army it is said "assumption is the mother of all cock ups". If Germany had not invaded Russia? If the Japanese had not attacked Pearl Harbour? If my uncle was a woman? We share an increasingly small planet - I don't think it helps to be arrogant, jingoistic or treat as virtue an ignorance of other peoples' histories. KB Maybe we shouldn't air this stuff here - I dunno - but I don't think you should pull this thread Jaap - I read it by choice all 7 pages & found it entertaining & instructive. It was obvious it wasn't about m/c from it's title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nogbad Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 V11 owners seem to be a cut above the rest in the IQ and debating stakes...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguzzi Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Just to be clear, somebody misquoted me as having slagged off the U.S. I didn't. I think it's a great place, I go there about twice a month, I've seen about 40 states and intend to see more, I've lived there for over a year and I'm actually a quarter american myself. I just think the present leadership sucks. And it's foreign policy, for quite a while now, even before the present gobshite. Democracy allows me, and other nationalities, to say that. Feel free to take potshots at my government if you wish, God know, we do enough of it over here. That is,of course, if you know who the Taoiseach is, and are capable of finding my particular peace of real estate on a map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g.forrest Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 yes no . but m/cycles were taken into consideration in the posting of the topic, you assuming otherwhise is wrong. Blimey! Just shows - the world over, we live in our own little bubbles, with our own views on the good guys & the bad. WE won the war, THEY won the war, None of it is THE TRUTH. Opinion, that's all any of it is - an accumulation of our family's & our society's experience, knowledge & prejudices. I cannot (tho I constantly do) assume that someone on the other side of the world shares my view eg: how this little lot started - an islander assumes that all imports must inevitably be from across a sea, & other islanders share his assumption. For him this is TRUE but not so for a man living on a continent containing many nations. They assume that cos that man says something according to his situation that does not accord with their's, that he is STUPID. Then go further & insult him & his, by voicing that ignorant assumption. This is the excuse for the axe-grinders to get to work. In the army it is said "assumption is the mother of all cock ups". If Germany had not invaded Russia? If the Japanese had not attacked Pearl Harbour? If my uncle was a woman? We share an increasingly small planet - I don't think it helps to be arrogant, jingoistic or treat as virtue an ignorance of other peoples' histories. KB Maybe we shouldn't air this stuff here - I dunno - but I don't think you should pull this thread Jaap - I read it by choice all 7 pages & found it entertaining & instructive. It was obvious it wasn't about m/c from it's title. 76766[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g.forrest Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 :!: a quote i heard abought america some years back is what i have believed ever since. quote . any thing said abought america is true. for we have everything. and feel free world to critisise my government all you like. Just to be clear, somebody misquoted me as having slagged off the U.S.I didn't. I think it's a great place, I go there about twice a month, I've seen about 40 states and intend to see more, I've lived there for over a year and I'm actually a quarter american myself. I just think the present leadership sucks. And it's foreign policy, for quite a while now, even before the present gobshite. Democracy allows me, and other nationalities, to say that. Feel free to take potshots at my government if you wish, God know, we do enough of it over here. That is,of course, if you know who the Taoiseach is, and are capable of finding my particular peace of real estate on a map. 76768[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldini Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 ...you assuming otherwhise is wrong. ... ....that's your opinion! KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike wilson Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Quite true.Heroes on horseback don't get very far, however. Ask the Polish cavalry. Arsenal of Democracy, and all that. 76691[/snapback] Polish cavalry did take quite a walloping from the panzers but acquitted itself admirably, considering the odds. The Polish air force knocked about 130 technologically superior planes out of the air in two days before succumbing to lack of supplies. Many of the same pilots went on to become members of the two highest scoring squadrons in the Battle of Britain. In later years of the war, Polish fighter pilots were the officially requested escorts to the USAAF bomber squadrons during its daylight raids over Europe. For some years, I have felt ashamed that my leader at the time was not able to stand up to that other paranoid, psychopath ruler, Stalin. mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Polish cavalry did take quite a walloping from the panzers but acquitted itself admirably, considering the odds. 76782[/snapback] The Soviets used Cossack cavalry throughout the entire war to good effect. They made use of the poor ground in Byellorussia and Ukraine to harass the German armies flanks. Also of note is that contrary to popular belief, the German army was not as mechanised as is generally thought. More than half of their ground transport for much of the war was horse drawn. The mechanised sections were first into battle with the reseves and supply lines using mostly horse transport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jihem Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Heroes on horseback don't get very far, however. 76691[/snapback] Hollywood ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macguzzi Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Steam powered motorcycles it's the only way forward, or is that motorcyclists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeBenGuzzi Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 you've hit the nail on the head, as the saying goes alex..yes it is all abought the fear of the world policeman that the world economy might be based on the euro, middle east included, as sadam was working toward.and not the allmighty american dollar . quote=Alex-Corsa,Feb 1 2006, 04:46 AM]Oh how , I do like France Thank God they stood up and said U.S . to mind their own bussines when they keep on putting their hands on territories they don't belong such as try putting Turkey in E.U. I agree that this is a bike forum but since some like to take it further here it is.... And Y'know something else?, this world saviour role is something the whole world is fed up with , it ain't truth.The wolrd knows who's the big dictator of nowdays in this planet. And another truth is, that Euro has beaten the s**t out of the dollar as currency and some guys in a big island over the atlantic are upset and try to break the unity of Europe union. I don't think anyone really gives a rats butt about the EU, and you don't HONESTLY think the US would invade iraq because he was thinking of switching over to the Euro do you? then my friend you have very little knowledge of the US its MUCH more likely the US went there because saddam has a big mouth and liked to take potshots at the US, much more likely. ALSO I'm saying the US needs to not worry about wiping its ass so damn much, they should have blown the guy up the first time not wipe out his army then help him rebuild his country and leave. WTF is that all about. if youre gonna take someone out. take them the F out. if I was a marine and told to check out/clear out a building I'd throw in one or two of these first. Then yell in. If youre still alive come out with your hands up. we should have learned from the romans or the crusades you can't domesticate those friggin ppl. there is No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 I don't think anyone really gives a rats butt about the EU76828[/snapback] Careful Ben! There are a lot of people on this forum that are from Europe and they may not want you forming their opinions for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeBenGuzzi Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Careful Ben! There are a lot of people on this forum that are from Europe and they may not want you forming their opinions for them. 76830[/snapback] hey, I don't care about nato, if that is even still around. the EU is a good idea but to make parallels to communisim is a bit skechy to me, maybe I misread but in the context of my reply, no one cares about the EU- Its a Non issues and thats easy to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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