a hanging

[macguzzi]

So, we should blow innocent people up and spend hundreds of billions of dollars, rather than spend hundreds of millions on improving relationships and encouraging good behaviour?

All to feel good about 911 (while claiming we are not racists)

I can't count the number of people who have argued for attacking Iraq saying, "remember 911" as a reason.

Ratchethack is right about the ignorance of the people...but he is on the wrong side of the aisle.

 

Nail on head, and the American public seem to have realised at last that those republicans are crazy religious fanatics, sounds familiar. If Iam a state I can bomb anyone that disagrees with me however as an individual I then become a terrrrerist ( Bush spelling)

[docc]

You'd think after all these k'thousands of years we'd have figured out the perfect way to solve all the world's problems. I suppose it's not to be.

 

We are, after all, each left to our own individual and accountable choices. And, perhaps, for some, the hope that we may one day see through the glass more clearly.

 

Otherwise we are but left with the fatalistic words of the character "Priss" in the movie Blade Runner:

 

"Then we're stupid and we'll die."

[Guest Nogbad]

Yeah, and Germany was stable and peaceful under Hitler.

 

Just giving bad people their way so they don't blow things up doesn't seem like a great solution either.

 

Sorry but this post is just a typical neo-con justification.

 

Saddam was not comparable to Hitler, and whilst bad, was no worse than a lot of other dictators who are causing at least as much human misery and represent just as much of a threat to the West. Try Mugabe, Kim Jong Il and the Burmese Junta for size.

 

Bear in mind that until the neo-cons went into Iraq there was no connection between that country and islamic fundamentalist terrorism. Saddam was actually an atheist.

 

I'm not defending Saddam, but get a sense of proportion.

[Guest Mattress]

Blade Runner is an awesome movie and thanks for posting that. I saw it in the Theatre one day when some friends and I skipped school. We were the only ones there!

 

Have you ever read "Do Sheep have Electric Dreams?" (or someting like that) First Sci-Fi I read in years that I liked. The movie is based on it.

 

Try Mugabe, Kim Jong Il and the Burmese Junta for size.

 

Arent those countries where coloured people live? Who gives a shit about them? Just asking cause I saw you are not an american (sorry).

 

{We do let foreigner's become citizens here, so if interested let us know. }

[Ralph Werner]

Gentlemen, the sad fact is that if you look at the written (and unwritten) history of mankind, the only thing that we are consistently good at is war.

[dlaing]

Gentlemen, the sad fact is that if you look at the written (and unwritten) history of mankind, the only thing that we are consistently good at is war.

I can only imagine you think that because history is written by war buffs who are often propagandists for the victors.

The "sad fact" is we are lousy at war.

Wars result in deaths, destruction, and economic catastrophy.

The decision to go to war is almost always the wrong decision.

Good is a relative term and we are good but not perfect at many other things like building communities, farming, creating art, help others, etc.

Glorifying war is a desperate attempt to justify war.

[helicopterjim R.I.P.]

 

The "sad fact" is we are lousy at war.

 

 

Yes but we keep trying to get better!

 

If only wars were for volunteers only and did not involve the innocent then perhaps it could be made a professional sport and we could then bet on war!

 

It's all fun and games until someone looses an eye? or an arm and a leg? a battalion? a country?

[Ralph Werner]

I guess "good" was a poor choice of a word.

 

Better (and absolutely true) would be the word "consistent".

[Crooz]

So, we should blow innocent people up and spend hundreds of billions of dollars, rather than spend hundreds of millions on improving relationships and encouraging good behaviour?

All to feel good about 911 (while claiming we are not racists)

I can't count the number of people who have argued for attacking Iraq saying, "remember 911" as a reason.

 

Amen! Tell it all brother ....

 

I do feel a bit better this week about being American ... as folks just gave Bush a wake-up call in the elections.

[docc]

Sorry but this post is just a typical neo-con justification.

 

 

 

 

Just an observation, no attempt at justification. I really think the whole thing sucks.

 

I am frankly quite weary of standing alert. But my family and my community are depending on those who will. Those who will stand alert.

 

I do not expect to stand down. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

[Crooz]

Just an observation, no attempt at justification. I really think the whole thing sucks.

 

I am frankly quite weary of standing alert. But my family and my community are depending on those who will. Those who will stand alert.

 

I do not expect to stand down. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

 

The US beats this 'Price OF Freedom' banner all the time. What is all this freedom we have vs most other countires?

Do these other countries have severe taxes to pay in support of already rich lawmakes? Do they have permit's and or fee's on practally every service they seek to undertake or perform. Do they have to buy licenses if they with to drive, hunts, fish, whatever? DO they have to register their cars. DO they have to get their cars inspected yearly? DO they have to maintain all this or not be allowed to drive or own? DO they have to pay one docotr before they can be referred to a specialist to treat their sickenss? DO they have to pay 50% of everything they make to their government?

Do they have their phone & internet conversations monitored. Do they have spy satallites watching their property? Does their goverment invade other countires at will?

This administration has used FEAR to serve their purposes. If they would have worked half as hard at making peace as they have at creating hatred, we and the world would be much better of now.

[Guest Nogbad]

The US beats this 'Price OF Freedom' banner all the time. What is all this freedom we have vs most other countires?

Do these other countries have severe taxes to pay in support of already rich lawmakes? Do they have permit's and or fee's on practally every service they seek to undertake or perform. Do they have to buy licenses if they with to drive, hunts, fish, whatever? Do they have their phone & internet conversations monitored. Do they have spy satallites watching their property? Does their goverment invade other countires at will?

This administration has used FEAR to serve their purposes. If they would have worked half as hard at making peace as they have at creating hatred, we and the world would be much better of now.

 

Yeah. Unfortunately you are not alone. In a recent survey the UK came in the bottom 5 of countries with "Endemic Surveillance". Yes, us Brits are in there with China, Russia, Malaysia and North Korea. All this assault on our privacy and civil liberties has been perpetrated by New Liebour under the banner of the "War on Terror" (sic) and with the assistance of a witch-hunting tabloid press that demands ever more knee jerk legislation to protect us from incompetent teachers, bad parents and paedophiles etc etc etc.

 

To be honest, you Americans should count yourselves lucky. At least you have a properly functioning democracy where you acually can give your President a bloody nose if he acts like a moron, and you can throw out your mayors, chiefs of police and DAs etc if they become more keen on their salaries and politically correct shit rather than catching evildoers.

 

No. Given the choice, I would rather be American.

[quazi-moto]

Its interesting how the intellectual crowd continually disparages Bush as a moron and a dumbass when in fact, from a sheer militaristic point of view, the kill ratio in this war has been outstanding. And now that we've adopted Iraq and we're all good buddies I've been thinking that they should send a bunch of dem stinky camel jockeys over here to start a new NFL expansion team. They can call themselves the Baghdad Beheaders.

[Guest Nogbad]

Its interesting how the intellectual crowd continually disparages Bush as a moron and a dumbass when in fact, from a sheer militaristic point of view, the kill ratio in this war has been outstanding.

 

Is that the arbiter of leadership success then? The number of other people you manage to kill relative to your own citizens?

 

I don't want to comment.

[John in Leeds]

Its interesting how the intellectual crowd continually disparages Bush as a moron and a dumbass when in fact, from a sheer militaristic point of view, the kill ratio in this war has been outstanding.

 

 

This comment sums up the whole sickening business -