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Incidentally, I asked Bruno "Brian" Saturno at G-B if he had any interest in making up the humps, too. He responded that he was happy to continue producing the Trofeo kits and creating a new "evolution" of the Sport Monza kit. He noted that the carbon belly pans, rear fenders, and wave discs are "always available". Cheers, Frey.

I'll come out and say that I'm not a big MM93 fan. He could use a dressing down like Ice-Man gave Maverick. Some arrogance is undoubtedly necessary to do what GP riders do, and deserved for MM, but some of his stunts (both en race and after) have been utterly stupid. Remember that idiotic arcade game stunt after winning the championship in 2018? I do give MM credit for taking massive bodily injury and getting back in the saddle and piloting a bike again and again. BBB. Time to retire, or do the VR46 thing? My guess is as long as he can command $20 million dollars a year in contract and endorsements, he'll stick around until his body quits. Unlikely that Honda will quit him. Anywho ... The crash in the Indonesia warm up was spectacular. Now, let me understand the dynamics of a high side: I found this definition of "highsider" on Wikipedia: Technical explanation[edit] Forces occurring between the motorcycle and the road (such as those that result in accelerating, decelerating and turning) occur at the contact patch through friction and normal forces. There is a limited amount of force tangential to the road that the contact patch can transmit before the tire begins to lose traction, and therefore slide or skid. When going through a curve on a motorcycle, centripetal force (added to the other lateral forces such as acceleration or deceleration) is transferred from the road to the motorcycle through the contact patch, and is directed at a right angle to the path of travel. If the net force is greater than the static friction coefficient of the tire multiplied by the normal force of the motorcycle through the tire, the tire will skid outwards from the direction of the curve. Once a tire slips in a curve, it will move outwards under the motorcycle. What happens from there depends on how well the rider is able to restore balance and control. If the tire regains traction after the rider starts to skid while the motorcycle is moving sideways, the tire will stop its sideways movement causing the motorcycle to suddenly jerk into an upright position (and beyond). This movement can easily cause the rider to be thrown off. [end quote] This makes some sense to my addled brain. Basically, a high side starts off like a low side. Then, either: 1) the bike tips further toward the ground, the tire patch evaporates, and the bike skids wheels forward-ish, 2) the lucky rider recovers just enough friction in the tire patch to return to equilibrium, or 3) the tire patch grabs and -- because the axis of the bike has turned too far relative to the direction of travel -- it acts like a fulcrum, turning the bike into a lever and the rider into the payload. In option (2) or (3), it seems that at the moment the tire patch grabs, the rear shock would be loaded. Then, it's a combination of the release of that load and the force (tangential?) from the rotation of the bike (upward/toward the outside of the curve) about the longitudinal axis that can either buck the rider out of the seat or cast the rider into the sky, a la Marquez. CMIIW. Assuming there's some reason to the above, what are the relative contributions of the unloading of the shock and the rotation of the bike? How would one modify their shock settings to allow high performance without setting the stage for a high side on accelleration? Cheers, Frey

Just spoke to a guy in Gettysburg who's been doing fiber and carbon manufacturing for decades (mostly dragster bodies). It happens that his shop is directly on a reasonable route for my upcoming trip, so I'll take an OEM hump, a matte carbon bit off the Tenni, and my current damaged carbon hump. I'll let you know what he quotes and then get a sense of what yinz all would want for options (weave, gloss/matte).

Incidentally, given that exchange rate, the price of a belly pan at 310 Euros would be ~$341, in case $41 changes anybody's mind.

BTW, read a review of the Triumph Thruxton 1200 R on Motorcycle News today. In the shootout with the BMW R nine T, the author said, "BMW’s 110bhp flat twin-cylinder R nineT ... Sport version costs £1090 more than the base model and comes with heated grips, a seat hump, a brushed ali tank and high-rise Akrapovic exhaust." Thus, apparently "hump" is a term of art (also) in the motorcycle community.

The belly pan is a hella lot more complex part than the hump. Maybe G-B will do some humps for us. I'll take a belly pan, too, while we're at it, if they can do it in matte.

You'd have to make your own padded part. $300 is a bit steep for me, but I'll keep working on it.

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/mcy/d/mesa-rare-moto-guzzi/7461230822.html 24,000 miles. Salvage title. Asking $6,500. Looks like the little fairing has a chunk out of it. Probably some other issues a keener eye will easily spot.

That is the price for 6. I suppose it could come down a bit more for 10...

First response back from fabricator: $300 per unit. That seems a bit steep to me. I'll get a few more quotes. What's your price point?

I'll make a few calls this week and see if I can get a quote. I can provide a fabricator with a hump . I assume, between those who've already expressed interest and a few more Guzzisiti, I could get six and maybe ten, bringing cost per item down somewhat from a one off. Cheers.

BTW, @Lucky Phil, your repair on that side cover looks great.

Gotta choose my battles, Phil. This one, I'd rather pay someone to git er done. If there's a critical mass of us that want these, maybe we can get the price per unit to a reasonable number. If it's prohibitively expensive, then yes, I'll give it a shot. Or, repair and matte clear, per your suggestion, above. Thanks!

Correct -- just the pillion cover. I have far too little time and comparatively more disposable income to start messing around with this as a DIY job. Incidentally, maybe this hump is due for v11lemans.com nomenclature. @docc: Yeah, that supposed windshield/flyscreen on ebay is clearly the seat lid. For a mere $200, you also get the sticker of Manneken Pis.

In honor of St. Patrick's Day, I took out the Green Goose today! Rode into Amish country, avoiding horse puckey on the road, took a mountain (well, what passes for a mountain in central PA) pass (lots of gravel and salt -- I almost walked around the 10mph hairpin switchbacks), and got back into town following a magnificent sunset. Stupidly, I didn't think to get a pic until too late, but I snapped this image after before it was lost completely: Look at that!!! Where is the "jaw on the floor" emoji? What a beautiful piece of machine art. You can walk around these V11 for hours trying to find the best angle to look at them from. And riding it is just as special. I can't make claim to being a great rider, I don't have any idea how to dial-in suspension settings, and I've haven't ridden scores of bikes for comparison purposes. What I do know is that the grin on the face sets in just after rolling out of the driveway. Literally. One moment it's a hooligan; another (around the ton) it's stirring milk tea. Pretty great combination, that. Cheers, Frey

So, I "need" a seat cowl, too. My Tenni came to me very well appointed in CF: front mudguard, gauges mount, fuel tank chin rest, alternator cover, side panels, hugger, and seat cowl. The only problem is that every piece of the CF is matte finish EXCEPT the seat cowl, which is high gloss. This bothers me immensely. Also bothersome, one of the POs turned the bolts too tight and cracked the cowl a bit; and there's a few other chips in the clear. I would like to source a matte CF cowl, but I'm guessing that's unobtainium. How many of us do yinz suppose it would take to make it affordable to get some made up for us? Seems a pretty easy job (for someone with the knowledge, skills, and tools, that is) -- one small piece, no corners, two holes. May have to start a new thread on this.... Thoughts?

Can't explain it, but I've always thought a tank cover would be cool ugly chic? Got one you aren't using? @docc? Color should be appropriate to champagne (if I were to order one new, I'd think about the steel grey). Cheers, Frey

Add Pennsylvania to intent. Timing is far from ideal for me, but gonna make every effort....

Geauga County is 3.5 hours away, so not an unreasonable ride, and I have fam in Cook Forest on the way there. I'll keep a lookout for NE Ohio MG activity. Cheers, @guzziart. Frey

Is that mood lighting, Docc?

Bought one-way flight from Pennsylvania to Colorado in June. Thinking I'll ride around CO visiting friends for 5 days and then spend another 5 days on a joy ride home. I'll need to buy a bike out there of course. If I love it, I'll keep it when I get home. Otherwise, I'll sell it. Trumpet Sprint STs seem to be pretty affordable and well-liked, plus many come with factory cases. Seems a number of forum members have owned or ridden one at some point. Virtues of this bike?

Interesting idea. Incidentally, the Tenni exploding clutch/flywheel problem was resolved by POx1. Bubbles just sounds a bit clanky. Seems that switching the brackets L to R resolved the fairing problem.

Yep, that did the trick. PO missed that when installing the fairing after the first crash. I always knew one cylinder was forward and one aft, but never knew they were no on longitudinal center.

Okay, I have the decent tune up bookmarked. @Scud, what to look for?

I did notice a bit of a stumble on acceleration, too. Maybe engine vacuum leak from the throttle-body base gasket?