Bbennett Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I could not get the V11 Sport to start today. So, I tried to bump start it in 2nd - this always works - and the rear wheel just skidded. When I put the bike up on a stand, should I be able to spin the rear wheel relatively easily? I can only get it to move about 1/4 of a turn in 6th. Thanks, Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luhbo Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Your bike seems to be quite normal. In case you could spin the wheel easily in 6th, even start it, you should try to make money with this show. For jump starts use the 3rd gear and use all the weight you have. On dry roads only. When wet you can try 4th or 5th even. The point is the jump start. Let it jump over the compression only once, then push, then jump again. Jump, clutch, push, jump, clutch, and so on. This engine jumps quite willingly this way. Don't do this when over 56 Hubert edit: bump start, if you wish. I feel jump start being the better expression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbennett Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 Thanks, are you saying the rear wheel should spin pretty easily in 6th when elevated on a stand? That is not the case here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luhbo Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 No, I'm saying in case you could spin the rear wheel by hand then you could act the Hercules in some Freak Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewgnu Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 "Bump in 3rd" I'll second that! My battery died whilst tearin' about on Skye- nearest bike shop? ...... Inverness! Wouldn't mind quite so much but I'd literally just been 'Haha!' -ing at my chum as his Speed Four battery died just before mine: "Ha! Brit-built shite, should've got a proper bike like mine!" Ah when Irony rears thy head... 150 odd miles of bumpin to get there. No chance in 2nd; 3rd or 4th work fine. O course, weren't me that were pushin.. Of course they didn't have the right battery ... But that don't stop the industrious guzzisti! (Another story) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mznyc Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 No.It shouldn't spin freely.There should be a resistance.Even in 6th.I have no problem bump starting in second,even without jumping on to it.Second gear,key on,run along side with hands on the bars for 5-10 yards,release clutch and a bit of throttle ,it'll start 9 times out of 10.Are you very light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbennett Posted October 15, 2014 Author Share Posted October 15, 2014 Thanks for all of the replies. This all happened after driving around town the day before at insufficient RPM's to charge the battery (long idles in slow moving traffic). I have the bump start technique mastered but the rear wheel would not rotate as usual during my normal procedure, and the bike would also not start from a "jump" from a car battery. Normally, both of those methods are foolproof. This made me wonder if the engine was somehow seized, hence the question in the Thread title. Thanks mznyc for your answer, it makes me think something else is amiss rather than an engine that will not turn over. Upon reflection, a slightly wet street sruface is prob. the cause of the bump start "skidding". I should have tried 3rd gear but I only had a limited amount of ramp to go down. In the process of trying to jump the bike with a car battery, the jumper cable must've touched the ECU as I fried the negative battery connector cable and the black (ground?) wire to the ECU. It was not a good day and it is one of the few times my bike has been unavailable to ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobleswood Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 That sounds like it could be expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstallons Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Remove the spark plugs..With the bike on the rear stand , shift the bike to 6 th gear and rotate the rear wheel . It should rotate with some effort because there is no compression . BTW you need to test the charging system , replace the battery if it needs it , get a good battery charger and rehearse how to jump start the bike. There are smaller jumper cables that are available for 4wheeler/motorcycle applications you can purchase . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbennett Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 Bike is now fixed. I took it into the shop where they replaced several burnt wires, the starter and the starter solenoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Make certain your main battery ground to the gearbox is clean and solid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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