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[Lucky Phil]

3 hours ago, audiomick said:

Not me, but I did wonder when you learned to use Photoshop. 

AI is way better and easier. My eldest daughter was showing me how to utilise AI as she's a tech wiz and has a high workload and uses it for things like converting text work papers into a podcast so she can listen to them while she drives and absorb info and drive at the same time. She then showed me how you can upload an image of your kitchen and get AI to remove all the dishes and stuff sitting on benchtops and it will provide an image of your kitchen bare. Then you can ask it to show the kitchen with various different tiles and colours etc. Using AI as a design tool. Naturally I tried it on the bike and car. Just type in what you want it to change and after 60 seconds it produces what I posted. Pretty impressive I think. Sure beats an educated guess and a paint swatch and crossed fingers.

Phil

Edited Wednesday at 09:46 PM by Lucky Phil

[Lucky Phil]

On 11/4/2025 at 9:46 PM, ScuRoo said:

I think doc is on the money actually 

A full on tribute Gulf Oil colour scheme would wow the boys that much more and add some historical cache
 

Reminds me i wanted to paint our front door yellow once - it took about 5 or 6 different paint colour attempts before I got the rich golden yellow just right! 
It was like Goldilocks having her porridge just right
 

Now you just upload an image of your house to AI and ask it to change the door colour to yellow. Sixty second later you get the result and then you can ask it again to lighten or darken it to your tastes print it out and cut out the door from the print and take it to the local paint shop and get it scanned into their matching machine and get the exact colour you want. Great tool for this type of stuff.

Phil

[docc]

Oh, so, a DTP (Digital Tool Package). Very useful, indeed.

Just (really) neither "artificial" nor "intelligent."

Sorry about the soapbox. Calling these (even impressively useful) program structures "AI" just trips my intelligence trigger.

Call them that if you want, but just know what you are buying into.

[Lucky Phil]

40 minutes ago, docc said:

Oh, so, a DTP (Digital Tool Package). Very useful, indeed.

Just (really) neither "artificial" nor "intelligent."

Sorry about the soapbox. Calling these (even impressively useful) program structures "AI" just trips my intelligence trigger.

Call them that if you want, but just know what you are buying into.

I get the downside but very few things are 100% bad. As usual you select the decent benign stuff and avoid the rest just like the internet in general. Mass instant communication as we are engaging in right now has brought great benefits but also some very, very serious problems. Light and dark, good and bad, smart and dumb, life affirming and life threatening and we get to chose what we want it to be.

Phil 

[Pressureangle]

10 hours ago, docc said:

Oh, so, a DTP (Digital Tool Package). Very useful, indeed.

Just (really) neither "artificial" nor "intelligent."

Sorry about the soapbox. Calling these (even impressively useful) program structures "AI" just trips my intelligence trigger.

Call them that if you want, but just know what you are buying into.

I was of the same mind, until I spent enough time interacting with a few to realize that there is no remaining space where a person of average IQ could tel with certainty that their interaction was not with a real human being of average IQ. 

That was near the same time when I realized that an average IQ is insufficient for independent survival, and thus the reason why the majority of humanity lives in bug hives. 

So in it's effect, AI meets all the criteria for Intelligent, if not sentient. The Turing Test does not demand a genius IQ.

[docc]

9 hours ago, Lucky Phil said:

I get the downside but very few things are 100% bad. As usual you select the decent benign stuff and avoid the rest just like the internet in general. Mass instant communication as we are engaging in right now has brought great benefits but also some very, very serious problems. Light and dark, good and bad, smart and dumb, life affirming and life threatening and we get to chose what we want it to be.

Phil 

 

2 minutes ago, Pressureangle said:

I was of the same mind, until I spent enough time interacting with a few to realize that there is no remaining space where a person of average IQ could tel with certainty that their interaction was not with a real human being of average IQ. 

That was near the same time when I realized that an average IQ is insufficient for independent survival, and thus the reason why the majority of humanity lives in bug hives. 

So in it's effect, AI meets all the criteria for Intelligent, if not sentient. The Turing Test does not demand a genius IQ.

Your intelligent replies lend an honorable significance to my snotty rant.

[audiomick]

12 hours ago, Pressureangle said:

... for Intelligent, if not sentient. ...

I'm still not convinced that one can really speak of "intelligence". Abilty to collect data and corellate it to an extant, but only to the extent it has been programmed to do. I dunno, intelligence is innate, not something that someone else has programmed the machine to do. 

Sentience is a whole different kettle of fish. That's in the "I think, therefore I am" realm. So-called "AI" is still a very, very long way away from that.

[Pressureangle]

1 hour ago, audiomick said:

I'm still not convinced that one can really speak of "intelligence". Abilty to collect data and corellate it to an extant, but only to the extent it has been programmed to do. I dunno, intelligence is innate, not something that someone else has programmed the machine to do. 

Sentience is a whole different kettle of fish. That's in the "I think, therefore I am" realm. So-called "AI" is still a very, very long way away from that.

"...intelligence is innate, not something that someone else has programmed the machine to do."

Here's the rub with that. Modern AI isn't programmed by 'someone else'. AI 'programmers' take the equivalent steps to telling your teenager, 'go talk to people and learn from them. I'll provide input and context when you get home." 'programmers' provide training sets, but the heuristics and algorithms assemble the output, not the programmers. 
What we have today is the functional equivalent of the Ship's Computer in Star Trek. 

[Lucky Phil]

It's just a shortcut name. Intelligence it's not but as with a lot of things it's given a handle that sticks. I remember when the word "Gay" just meant you were happy. Somewhat removed from the current definition.

Phil 

Edited Friday at 04:03 AM by Lucky Phil

[gstallons]

 

Intelligent: well informed. 

 Information: propaganda.

 Truth: anymore I have no idea.

 "computer" . I hear in my head "Scotty's" pronunciation and always will.