Ballacraine Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 As I have posted before... I changed mine for a V10 twin plater at 6,500miles. I had it crack detected at work and it was on it's way to failure. There were cracks adjoining the mounting bolts. I STILL say IMO this is a WHEN not an IF! Nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballacraine Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Mind you, all you sods with the late model 10 springer or the RAM single plater, (Not the one modified by Guzzi for fitment to the Scurra!) don't really have to worry as your clutches and flywheels are about as light as you can get anyway. Me? I like the Eldo flywheel in my SP Pete That raises a point for me, Pete. You wouldn't happen to know if the unit fitted to my 2002 Cali Stone Metal ( 5 speed Tonti frame ) would be an 8 or 10 spring unit do you? I have located a lightened 8 spring clutch unit & wonder if it would be a good idea. TIA Nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard100t Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 the one I had, was even earlier. But richard, until now all rosso mandello clutches didn't have the problem. Yes Paul, fortunately it seems limited just to the Scura model. I cannot imagine that if there were a problem with the Tenni's or RM's it would have had to have shown up by now. Mine has 17k miles on it & the clutch is just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Minnaert Posted December 31, 2006 Author Share Posted December 31, 2006 That raises a point for me, Pete. You wouldn't happen to know if the unit fitted to my 2002 Cali Stone Metal ( 5 speed Tonti frame ) would be an 8 or 10 spring unit do you? I have located a lightened 8 spring clutch unit & wonder if it would be a good idea. well the 10 spings are there to cope with the torque/power the 2001 stone has 8 springs according to the shop manual. http://www.moto-guzzi.us/archiviomoto/Cali...2001%20mgit.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballacraine Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 well the 10 spings are there to cope with the torque/power the 2001 stone has 8 springs according to the shop manual. http://www.moto-guzzi.us/archiviomoto/Cali...2001%20mgit.pdf Yep that is it....Thanks for that Paul! Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossoandy Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 hi all, Just wanted to add my Rosso has done over 18k now and the clutch rattles like a good un but...it ant broke yet! am I on borrowed time I wonder,should I strip and check it? every time I clutch it up onto its back wheel I think....its gonna blow!!!...roll on summer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Field Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 An 8-spring clutch, kept free of oil and with good plates, will easily handle the 80-odd hp of the average V11. Unless cut down by a machinist, though, it will be far heavier than the 10-spring clutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Minnaert Posted December 31, 2006 Author Share Posted December 31, 2006 So here the thing that only non usa v11 scruras have it, is broken. Time to report it to the safety board, the ones responsible for recalls? To force Guzzi to do something to the scura owners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaing Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 hi all, Just wanted to add my Rosso has done over 18k now and the clutch rattles like a good un but...it ant broke yet! am I on borrowed time I wonder,should I strip and check it? every time I clutch it up onto its back wheel I think....its gonna blow!!!...roll on summer... From all indications the Rosso Mandello got the good batch of single plate clutches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Last year, (Almost a year ago exactly!) we threw a rod at Eastern Creek and as the crank stopped, (Like it does when a half rod lodges in the side of the crankcase!) He's not joking either!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballacraine Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Ouch! Yep...That'd do it! Nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soloNH Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 It's winter time here in the Northeast US and I have been contimplating a teardown and see for myself if my hand grenade flywheel is failing or not, and now this recient flurry in this thread. Yikes! OK, I sent an e-mail to MG in the hopes that something might be done for the Scura and other aflicted models out there. I have enclosed the text of my message for you to see. Maybe, just maybe if enough polite and respectful imput is generated that MG will finally put this thing to rest! I encourage others to do the same. Here it is. "My guess is that your probably aware of this situation which is premature failure of the flywheels on Sucras. There are several examples of this happening through out the USA and in Europe. I am a member of the V11Lemans.com forum and there is much written about this happening and the extreme safety hazzard that can happen as a result of failure at speed. This is not a question of switches or relays failing but of damage to associated engine components resulting in MAJOR repairs. Should the rider be able to come to a stop safely when failure occures he will be considered "lucky" to be facing a major repair bill and not major injuries. This issue really should be addressed by Moto Guzzi as there is enough information out there to determine that the affected motorcycles were manufactured with flywheels that were either poorly designed or poorly manufactured and the burden should not be placed on the consumer. You know how loyal your customed base is but as a owner of one of the affected vehicles and knowing that it is probably not if but when the failure occures does not instill confidence in an otherwise spectacular motorcycle that I never want to part with. Moto Guzzi should step up to the plate here and correct this problem. I have enclosed a link to our web sight so you can see for yourself. http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3520 Thank you for your attention. Wally" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballacraine Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Been done by a few of us ages back. Zilch response. Nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Minnaert Posted January 1, 2007 Author Share Posted January 1, 2007 what can help is to file a complaint at the nhtsa http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/ and let guzzi know you did. Important is to make clear that in the case of a failure the rearwheel can be blocked, so a dangerous situation is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballacraine Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 TBH I don't think the US government would be interested in my problem. I have taken it into my own hands and resolved it so it is no longer an issue for me. Nige. <_ src="%7B___base_url___%7D/uploads/emoticons/default_smile.png" alt=":)"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now