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  1. 1. What sort of bike should Moto Guzzi build next?

    • Another V11 special edition made from left over parts.
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    • They should stick to making Brevas, Grisos and cruisers.
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    • A road legal MGS01 with a V11 motor.
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    • A road legal MGS01 with a 1225cc 4 valve motor.
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    • A road legal MGS01 with a brand new watercooled 170bhp V twin.
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    • They should give up making bikes and start producing electric wheelchairs.
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I first got into Guzzis with one of the original V50s: superb little bike, sang its heart out for me as I ran it in all the way to Spain and back in 1980. So, I say keep the something like the Breva 750 [but not the Nevada, please] to attract the right people into the Guzzi fold.

 

I would also say keep the V11, because the potential is clearly there for a great bike, and it's just very good at the moment.

 

In general, I agree that Guzzi could do worse than follow in Triumph's footsteps and keep a foot in as many markets as possible, albeit with an eye on "heritage". The worst thing that could happen is that owning a Guzzi becomes an eccentric gesture. It's not exactly mainstream to own one, and never will be, but at the moment it is possible, just, to own a modern, do-it-all bike and a proper Guzzi in one machine. My "modern" has to be a jack-of-all-trades, sufficiently quick to give me the tingle, able to tour, go to the shops and have that indefinable "character". Oh, and I like to service my own, repair them and tinker with them occasionally, too. It's why I bought a V11.

 

On the other hand, it's why I haven't replaced it with an 1100 Breva, and probably won't. The big Breva is a worthy competitor in a very competitive market that includes mostly Jap tackle, but I don't fit their customer profile for it, and I would guess that most Guzzi enthusiasts wouldn't, either.

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I first got into Guzzis with one of the original V50s: superb little bike, sang its heart out for me as I ran it in all the way to Spain and back in 1980. So, I say keep the something like the Breva 750 [but not the Nevada, please] to attract the right people into the Guzzi fold.

 

I would also say keep the V11, because the potential is clearly there for a great bike, and it's just very good at the moment.

 

In general, I agree that Guzzi could do worse than follow in Triumph's footsteps and keep a foot in as many markets as possible, albeit with an eye on "heritage". The worst thing that could happen is that owning a Guzzi becomes an eccentric gesture. It's not exactly mainstream to own one, and never will be, but at the moment it is possible, just, to own a modern, do-it-all bike and a proper Guzzi in one machine. My "modern" has to be a jack-of-all-trades, sufficiently quick to give me the tingle, able to tour, go to the shops and have that indefinable "character". Oh, and I like to service my own, repair them and tinker with them occasionally, too. It's why I bought a V11.

 

On the other hand, it's why I haven't replaced it with an 1100 Breva, and probably won't.  The big Breva is a worthy competitor in a very competitive market that includes mostly Jap tackle, but I don't fit their customer profile for it, and I would guess that most Guzzi enthusiasts wouldn't, either.

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I actually like the Nevada's looks in real life. It doesnt photograph well is the problem. :2c:

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I actually like the Nevada's looks in real life. It doesnt photograph well is the problem. :2c:

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Well, I suppose that no Guzzi is all bad. I've seen the current Nevada, too, at my local dealer's and, yes, I have to admit it does look better than some Japanese custom offerings. It's just that I think small custom bikes are neither one thing nor the other. Maybe I ought to ride one.

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NO! keep the Breva 750 for newbies and for delivering pizza

 

i know beauty is in the eye of blah blah blah, but that Breva 750ie is just an ugly duck, an unconvincing bike when you look at others in its niche and it will never be a beautiful swan. I don't think it's a very good MG entry bike either and i would be very interested to look at market research results showing who buys them...No, i think that bastard bike needs to be terminated and a real no-frills T3 like bike has to take its place.

 

Or they can just build one and i'll take it ;--)

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The Breva 750 is *much* better looking than the Brevona; Guzzi really went overboard adapting the 750's styling to the big twin. Road tests of the Breva reveal it to be one of those absurdly great all-rounders, which is probably why it is selling so well in Europe [for Guzzi; dismal sales by J-4 standards...] But: it'll never be a sales success stateside until/unless Guzzi can get the otd price under the SV650, since the Breva is hp down & avoirdupois up from that uber-value leader!

 

Guzzi absolutely needs an entry-level machine & for now the 750s are it: better they came out with another 500cc single with handling & performance to blow the socks off Harley's Blast & pricing to match! But methinks Piaggio won't try that gambit, since it might eat into their scooter sales...

 

Ride on!

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Every time I ride my Ural (every day this year so far), I wish it had a Guzzi engine. So, if MG took the new engine and transmission and changed 6th gear to a reverse and built a sidecar rig, they could hit a niche market and absolutely rule it! As long as they didn't hit it with an ugly stick...

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Every time I ride my Ural (every day this year so far), I wish it had a Guzzi engine. So, if MG took the new engine and transmission and changed 6th gear to a reverse and built a sidecar rig, they could hit a niche market and absolutely rule it! As long as they didn't hit it with an ugly stick...

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A "Uruzzi" in fact. Or should that be a "Guzzal"

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...a totally mad bastard MGS type thang but one that'd be angry enough to go to the track and spank all those Ducrappis...put MG back on the big map...then release one with lights and a horn so equally mad bastards can do the same on the roads! yabadabadooooo

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i'll go with the majority on this one.a corsa -sport with the 4 valve.no fairing-no chrome.dont worry about the vibration,thats what makes it a guzzi.i dont think the boys in mondello care what we want.they give us what we need.ciao

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My 2 cents because there something missing from the line up . A 1/2 faired sport model called the Le Mans .

 

The Japanese makers , Ducati all are coming out with nostalgia/retro air cooled bikes . What better time to build a larger displacement , battle tough air cooled 4 valve LeMans . The modern metalurgy and coatings are certainly available as are good engine oils . There are some ultra fast ECM's out there as well they could lay under the seat .

 

No sharp edges to the fairing or headlites , top of fuel tank nice and flat . Rear pillion seat at same height as the riders . Just an air cooled bike with the near same LeMans styling from 2002 and up yet with the new small combustion chamber 4 valve head thats just about required these days . Same dual side mufflers for the GT look and since it will cost a bundle , please , no two piece stainless valves . This is 2008 . Analog guages completes my order form :D

 

Last , a practical way to actually tune it .

 

No , last could be a smart thing for MG to do . MG offering stage 1 , II and III engine kits in a box , with practical means of tuning the engine after modifications . At practical pricing of course :D

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My 2 cents because there something missing from the line up . A 1/2 faired sport model called the Le Mans .

 

The Japanese makers , Ducati all are coming out with nostalgia/retro air cooled bikes . What better time to build a larger displacement , battle tough air cooled 4 valve LeMans . The modern metalurgy and coatings are certainly available as are good engine oils . There are some ultra fast ECM's out there as well they could lay under the seat .

 

No sharp edges to the fairing or headlites , top of fuel tank nice and flat . Rear pillion seat at same height as the riders . Just an air cooled bike with the near same LeMans styling from 2002 and up yet with the new small combustion chamber 4 valve head thats just about required these days . Same dual side mufflers for the GT look and since it will cost a bundle , please , no two piece stainless valves . This is 2008 . Analog guages completes my order form :D

 

Last , a practical way to actually tune it .

 

No , last could be a smart thing for MG to do . MG offering stage 1 , II and III engine kits in a box , with practical means of tuning the engine after modifications . At practical pricing of course :D

Well MG has beat you to it for the staged tuning kits in a box. The new 1200 Sport offers just that.

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Just an exhaust system is what I have seen at the MG.it home site and the German MG site .

 

So they have engine hard parts also ? Thats good to know .

 

Take a look at what the Yamaha .au site has for the MT-01 . Cams , pistons , V stacks and such . GYT kits like the old days .

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A MGS-01 styling,liquid-cooled,reliable,comfortable,120 hp(modest in today's world).

Also more touring/type accessories ala nice looking hard bags/trunk,heated grips,power outlet,and and alternator that can easily keep up with those and maybe GPS,aux lights.

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