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  1. Great! this is how you prefer it. I myself want a battery of gauges to survey every aspect of the V11. There is no specific rationale that you would condone, it is just how I would like to do it. Which shouldn't my motorcycle provide me with the same information than my car? I like to know what time it is, I like to know what the outside temperature is. What's wrong with me?
  2. I am not attempting to install an oil temperature gauge in that position. It will give me the oil temperature in the sump, at that is all I am looking for. Just because I am curious to know what it is. Also, I would rather have a pressure gauge to monitor the oil pressure, rather than a warning light.
  3. Hi Scud, Here's why I would like to install an analogical oil temperature thermometer among other things; Let's go back when I was a young boy, growing up in the 60's. At that time, sports cars were invariably coming from the other side of the channel. Jaguar, BL Triumph, Mini, Aston Martin, MG... all these cars had something that fascinated us, envious youth. Dashboards full of these mysterious Smith or Jaeger gauges. We quickly devised a rule; the more gauges, the better car. This is the reason why one of my early car was an Innocenti Cooper, which had those wonderful little gauges, and no or little warning lights. Amps, Volts, Watts, Oil Temp, Oil Press, Water Temp... what not. I even owned a Renault 21 Turbo which had a boost pressure gauge... how about that? I even have an anecdote about oil pressure. The mechanic forgot to put oil in my Cooper. There was no oil pressure light, but the gauge reading was zero. A sensor can fail, a light can fail, an analogical instrument? not so much. Anyway, when I was testing battle tanks, we had additional manometers and gauges. Plenty of pressures and temperatures from various components that we were testing. To finish up with this, I spent thirty five years of my professional life logging oil wells. Initially, all the readings were analogical. All the tools were monitored using oscilloscopes and other equipment plotting the response from the tools. Back to my desire to monitor the oil temperature of the Guzzi today. Nostalgia? wanting to be closer to the V11? who knows. Porsche 911 air cooled had oil temperature indicators. Why not the Le Mans? How useful will it be? I don't know, but I know I will enjoy having one more thing to look at on those long rides...
  4. The Canadian "LedPerf" proposes a complete headlight replacement. https://www.ledperf.ca/led-headlight-for-motoguzzi-v-11-le-mans-round-motorcycle-optics-approved-p-33045.html I don't know if I want the head light to look so extra terrestrial though...
  5. The Vintage Car Bulb is a proprietary design, but if you read the page, they are sold in sets of two. So the price is actually for two bulbs and not a single. I also found this, from Canada: https://www.ledperf.ca/led-conversion-kit-bulb-for-motoguzzi-v-11-le-mans-mini-size-p-23477.html They claim it is a plug and play replacement of the existing H4, and 4500 lumens! 5 years warranty. All these LED lights look identical, one from the other. They may be manufactured by the same Chinese company with different brand names. The one I purchased looked exactly like those shown in the various specifications, and at no time did they inform they had a separate driver that was too large to fit in the bucket. "No OBC" error; they must ignore that the V11 electrical circuit is not connected to the ECU.
  6. @Tomchri Your system works on 12 Volts. I am looking at something completely mechanical. No wiring modification to implement. I only need to confirm the dimensions of the spare port hole. Then I will need to look for something to go from M16 male to pipe/tube connection on the other side. The vendor of the Rochester instrument confirmed that theirs require a JIC 5/8"-18 UNF to seal around the capillary. The other information that would I would appreciate, is the length of capillary I should go for, to set the gauge somewhere at the dashboard level. The gauge diameter is about 51+mm. These gauges are designed to be mounted on a dashboard. I am thinking this should be above the existing Guzzi instruments and lights panel. The European are all offering a fixed length of about 1800mm The Rochester comes in four lengths: 48", 60", 72", 144" (1219mm, 1524mm, 1828mm, 3657mm). I can coil the excess underneath the tank (maybe), but it would certainly help to purchase the closest to what I need.
  7. After two days of driving around, I have a small inconvenience to report. The thermometer gauge vibrates between 65 and 70 mph. Not enough to make the instrument unreadable, but it does look out of focus. Strangely enough, the clock is not affected, and remains unvibrating at the same speed. Now, I do not know why the right side behaves differently than the left side, but I am going to try to find out if I can do something to alleviate the problem. Something I have noticed is in motion, yesterday, the temperature read about 106 degF. After a stop, it was about 101 degF. Since the Formotion gauge has no probe, I am thinking it is not very accurate. Good enough when the bike is not moving.
  8. @docc I am not certain M15 exists in the Metric standard. It could either be M14 or M16 both with 1.50 mm thread pitch. The oil drain in the middle of those two threaded holes, what is it for? the main drain is underneath the sump, is it not? I am asking because this hole is M10, thus, I found one of those mechanical oil temperature gauge which fits an M10 threaded hole. I found an adapter from M14 x 150 male to 5/8"-18 UNF Female. This would work for the Rochester or Smith gauges. https://www.bpsracing.com/adaptateur-de-filetage-femelle-5-8-unf-male-m14-1-5.html
  9. @docc The oil drain plug is m10 x 1mm pitch. The other plug looks larger in diameter, maybe M12. But it is only a matter of finding a crossover to either M10 or 5/8" UNF
  10. @Tomchri@docc I found the drawing from the spare parts catalog. There is a spare hole. Of course, Guzzi does not tell us the dimensions of the adapter to pipe they use. Once I figure out the specs of item 22, then I can check what crossover I can use to 5/8"-18 UNF, or I can go Smith. It does not matter if the Temperature is in C or F. I am familiar with both scale.
  11. This is perfect. Do you know the size and thread pitch of the plug? If it is a the threads are parallel, then there is an o'ring to seal. If the threads are conical, then I just need to install a nipple that fits the hole on one side, and the capillary on the other. The challenge is those threaded holes are metric. What I found metric requires a 10mm diameter hole. The easy way, since 5/8" UNF seems the standard, would be to find an adapter Guzzi threaded hole Male, by 5/8" UNF female. If you can tell me what size it is, I can start looking for a Male by Female cross-over. I found a lot of mechanical oil temperature systems for air cooled engines. A lot of them for airplanes. This is made by Rochester. However the nut is 5/8"-18 UNF, not going to fit a Guzzi. This is Smith; UK based. Those of you who had Jaguars and Triumph cars will know that brand. Another 5/8 UNF-18 adaptor, by 3/8" British Standard Pipe I found this one in Switzerland; the capillary fits M10 x 1.5 mm thread pitch.
  12. @LowRyter I have considered purchasing a Beeline, but have abandoned the idea. Here's my rationale; I don't know how are roads in Oklahoma although I went there for work once. Today while coming back from Katy on the I-10, I had to avoid three palettes dropped on the asphalt. The car that I was following (at a distance) barely avoided them, and as he was obstructing my view, I had less time to react too. The other typical issue we have, are the numerous delaminated tire debris which can cause a fall. But not only that. It is my strong belief that on a motorcycle, you need to keep your eyes on the road all the time. A couple of seconds glance at the dashboard to check for warnings is safe. In my mind, keep eyes on a navigation device is a possible cause to have an accident because it requires too much attention. This is why I deliberately exclude any screen to compete for my attention. About Beeline; I read lots of reviews complaining about devices that stop working and an under par customer service in Europe. Generally speaking, customer service in the USA is a lot better than what we have in Europe. Also, Beeline requires to pair it with a phone. That makes up for some kind of redundancy. If I have to pair my phone, why do I need Beeline? Personally, I only "listen" to directions, and I found the best application to do that is Waze. My phone remains in my pocket, and I follow verbal instructions spoken through Bluetooth. My helmet is equipped with small speakers. Other advantages of Waze, you get warnings about hazards on the road, traffic issues. This is the best App for navigation for motorcyclists that don't watch the display. Google and Apple not as good with voice commands. By only listening to my navigation, my eyes keep scanning as they should. My major problem is the noise in my helmet. If I wear ear plugs, I don't hear the instructions any longer. I need to find ear plugs that lower the noise without completely cutting the Waze audio commands. For the record, I participated to the funding of the Pebble watch, which failed lamentably and was purchased by Fitbit eventually. My Pebble watches invariably failed after a few months. The display became unreadable. Pebble was a US company, they had a good customer service. They replaced the watch each time. Towards the end, they no longer did. I would think that Beeline does not have the financial means to perfect their design and make it reliable. What you are experiencing I have read about in the reviews.
  13. Working on my head light last week.... three showers and complete change to carry out the task.... My biggest problem is vision..... I am short sighted, so I need to remove my glasses all the time to alternate near sighting and far sighting. It is only with old age that I no longer have glasses that do both. At least, I don't need so-called reading glasses. Do you have a bench with a vice?
  14. I had the exact same problem on the Le Mans last week, when I attempted to replace the H4 lamp with a LED light in the head light. I followed the manual's instruction, requiring to remove the little "access trap" underneath the fairing, to get access to the screw that enables pivoting the assembly upwards, and removing the diffuser/reflector. What I did not know at that time, is that the clip on nut was attached to a plastic tab inside, and the plastic tab was no longer holding the nut. @Tomchri suggested to take off the entire fairing, which I did, and this is when I realized what was happening. I repaired the plastic tab with modelism plastic glue. That saved me from purchasing a replacement bucket. I did notice that a lot of the hard plastic parts become brittle with time, especially when exposed to so much UV light.
  15. I finally installed the two Formotion instruments after a long moment of reflection. Rather than using the front fork tee, I opted to use the 6mm screws that hold the front fairing cover. It is not (yet) perfect. I have plastic bushings that I was planning to file down at an angle, so the instruments would be perfectly in line with my vision when I ride the bike. But I need a vice to do that properly. Instead, I used washers to make up for the recess, and simply installed the thermometer on the left and the clock on the right. No permanent modification of the Guzzi. That's what I prefer. Unfortunately, the Formotion instruments don't have night fluorescent pointers, at night they will be unreadable. Which is fine, since I am still not planning to ride at night. ______________________________________________________________________________________ I am considering the installation of an RTD or Thermocouple based Oil Temperature indicator. I know that the oil temperature information is unnecessary. I am simply interested in finding a way to do it. I would like to get that information on the dashboard, so the oil combined thermometer dipstick is not what I am looking for. One way to use gas flow rate, is to measure pressure, differential pressure across a known orifice, and of course temperature taken in the gas stream. Before electronics took over, we used RTD devices, which were completely mechanical. I found what I was looking for in Europe, now what I need to devise, is where to connect the temperature probe on the Guzzi. But its another thread I guess. [docc edit: agreed. Installing Oil Temperature Sensor thread created based upon @p6x's comment, italicized.]:
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