Tom in Virginia

As a result of wife's family having someone who needs home care, she has left to fulfill those obligations. As a result, I have been bestowed with the title of "Dude in Charge" and tasked with staying home and minding the farm animals (our 3 big dogs) pending her return. As such, I have had to cancel my reservation at the Lodge as of this morning. I do so with great reluctance as I always thoroughly enjoy the superb riding, endless LeMans banter and laughs provided by the V11 Spine Raid Team. If by chance things relax a bit and I can get away, I will still try to show, albeit likely on my trusty '16 Norge. My fingers are crossed, as things can change at a moments notice. I will stay tuned and monitor the goings on up until the arrival date of the rest of you. Tom

Well my plan is to be there for the 21st SSR. I was only able to get a room, albeit a 'suite". Also reserved the "almost unobtanium" 2 garage spots. If anyone has need for kitchen/fridge it'll be available for our S'SR use. Have a riding buddy who plans to show later, but at present he doesn't know which day he may arrive. Come on Cherohala!

I'm down with "The Devil Went Down to Georgia. " Maybe docc can bring his fiddle to the next "Spine Raid" and play a song/dance a jig for everyone, all the while wearing his fancy hat? Ya never know, we might all join in! (I'm 4 hours closer than my previous raids but this would be an impetus to make it my 3rd attendance!)

Just to note, out of interest to others, I did find what is supposedly the original fuel pump, with proper insulator, but $426 was just too much. (Edit addition 5/26) Found the same on Amazon for $154.07. Ordered, appears same as OEM with proper boot insulator/size). Will update upon receipt/comparison/install). https://www.finditparts.com/products/4474423/hella-7-dot-21287-dot-53-dot-0?srcid=CHL01SCL010-Npla-Dmdt-Gusa-Svbr-Mmuu-K4474423-L255&srcid=CHL01SCL010&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_marketing_tactic=broad&utm_paid_search_intent=vendor-brand&utm_campaign_id=21341868715&utm_ad_group_id=&utm_ad_id=&utm_platform=x&utm_placement=&utm_keyword=&utm_target_id=&utm_match_type=&utm_feed_item_id={feed_item_id}&utm_extension_id={extension_id}&utm_location_interst=&utm_location_physical=9008863&utm_product_id=4474423&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21331715424&gbraid=0AAAAAD1MMz7k9_oAlCNO_WKd-qFrOGTnT&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_8rBBhCFARIsAJrc9yDhhyVhWvnaWMJwtAhdIkYZUpnlpd1_YM47mxI3yHdRHRQphAtWoVoaAhmaEALw_wcB

Well to follow up on all the troubleshooting I narrowed it down to a bad fuel pump. Size (OD) of the Quantum fuel pump was larger than the original (Pierburg Made in USA????) so the rubber isolator boot would not work. Had to use some turbo hose to get the attachment clamps to fit the pump mount properly. Kiwi-Roy schematics for troubleshooting were a lot of help, as were all the other suggestions from you guys. Thanks again!! Now the idle is running low, around 900 rpms so need to figure that out. This bike is pissed at me for moving it to another part of the state!

Yeah I thought that was kinda odd, leaking at the connections. I sometimes wonder if the non-alcohol 93 octane I had always previously used (pump gas also had Valve-Tech additive in it) may have unintended side effects similar to alcohol gas. But since that's no longer available, I will instead be using 90 octane non-alcohol from a farm supply station nearby. Good point "gstallions", no sense in installing a new pump using the original/now old gas lines. Attention to detail is my rule of law (but then I still turn around to find something stupid on occasion) Will be sure to use the high pressure clamps, they are far superior to the standard worm drive clamps that cut into the rubber hose. I have had very good luck with those on other fuel injection systems. Thanks again, always appreciative.

I was poking around looking at the external fuel pump and the two electrical connection points. Noted a drop or 2 of fuel come out of what appeared to be one of the electrical connections. Does not appear to be the fuel hose connected to that end of the pump. Unusual (and possibly frightening). Anyone ever noticed this and if so, any guess as to what is happening here. Would it be likely that the internal seals/lining of the pump has deteriorated due to age? I am assuming best course of action would be to just go ahead and order a new pump which is easy.

Thanks for all the input guys! It still amazes me that my little problem can have such helpful technical input in very short turnaround from all across the world! Kentucky, Oregon, Maryland, Germany and Scotland. V11 LeMans is probably one of my most treasured websites. And thanks to all who keep it up and running! I'll post my cause/corrective action once it is determined.

Here's the schematic I was looking at. Between Relay 5 and wire off of the ECU. Now I just have to find the pump if it is different than my '03.

Great I will check it out. And thanks a bunch! I was hoping to ride to VA MG Brunch on Saturday but may have to be my red "Stallion".

I'll try to keep this short and to the point. 2002 LeMans. Stock bike with very minor exceptions, as received from factory. Although sitting most of the time, I do run it occasionally (but trying not to run up mileage... I know that sounds kind of stupid but have my go-to '03 for that). In the process of moving my bikes to new home in mountains, I started '02 and rode for maybe 5 minutes before loading into the trailer. Relocated to mountains 2 days later, unloaded and tried to start '02. No start. When I energize the key, I hear the 4&5 relays cycle like normal. No accompanying fuel pump noise. (Note: Good cranking power (new 545 Odyssey), Omron relays.) All fuses checked "SAT", swapped around relays, no issues with fuses identified and normal cycling of relays noted. Swapped in spare (new) Omron relays just in case. Still no change. Would you think I have a bad fuel pump or might the issue possibly be somewhere else? (I have done my forum home work, spending a lot of time looking for similar topic posts and reviewing electrical schematics within forum posts) , but have not uncovered this specific problem but probably more my lack of using proper terms for searches.) Thanks to all in advance! Tom in VA

should I edit again LOL ... for the 3rd time docc? Molested was probably the wrong word in hindsight now that it has been re-interpreted for me.

Sent you a PM with photo link and ad wording

CURRENTLY OFF MARKET/NOT FOR SALE Hello to all. I know eventually someone would pickup on my ad via FB or in one of the MG classifieds. Hate to let her go but with 6 motorcycles in garage it's time to thin it out a bit. Anyways, yeah it has a steep price tag on it but it is "unmolested" except for docc's suggestion of Omron relays which cured my temperamental fuse blowing problem. Also the MPH bar risers are installed as well. Gonna keep my red '03 because it's "loud and proud" and a hoot to ride. Can't really justify running the '02 hard having the 03. Besides it's completely stock, that quiet sewing machine sort of ride. Anyways, feel free to roast me on the price but I have $7500 in it, $500 shipping and a new set of tires. Otherwise it is unchanged since I purchased August 2020 except for additional enjoyable mileage over 2400 (now 5980) including a few days at the Spine Raid riding my favorite road Cherohala Skyway. (I recently purchased a Yamaha T7 Tenere in January so I have something to explore gravel/dirt roads with my buddy. I paid 12K for that OTD and have dumped another 6K plus in improving it's shortcomings. So yeah, $6900 negotiable is pretty cheap for classic Italian machinery) https://www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/505912985141034?ref=share_attachment https://photos.app.goo.gl/ergoERzXaEie8jiV8

Currently about $84 US https://ca-cycleworks.com/pf3c.html