Gio Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 I guess the electric Petcock on my '00 V11S took exception to the number of connect/disconnects during the recent vapour-lock expts and decided to liberate itself of the control wires (one snapped off just at the base of the solenoid assy and the other was hanging on by maybe one or two threads at best). Bad design. Anyone have a recommendation or part # on a manual replacement that would fit? Gio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callison Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 The part number for the petcock from a Sport 1100i is: 29105460. I think they're about $70. I believe the electric one is rebuildable. Mine is apart on my bench right now. I pried loose the cap, chipped away the epoxy and the two coil terminals can be soldered to again. Just haven't done it. Now I'll feel compelled to to see if it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_roethlisberger Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 ...or just replace it with the manual one MG returned to using around 2001. Call Moto International in Seattle and just tell them you need the manual petcock for a V11 Sport. It's about $45, and will last forever al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest russ Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 Get a Pingel Valve. Flows more fuel and lasts forever. Many styles. I got one for my Duc Single project. Very well made. Pingel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted November 28, 2003 Author Share Posted November 28, 2003 Thanks everyone, I think the manual replacement is the way to go (should bolt right up) but MG is doing some kind of inventory thing at the moment - so unable to place an order until Dec 5...? Alternatively Pingel seem to make some nice stuff also... Gio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaing Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 What size pingel valve would work? adapter??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest russ Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 What size pingel valve would work? adapter??? Dunno, but if you call there service is first rate. Just have the thread size available. I got a real nice one for m Duc Single prject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted November 29, 2003 Author Share Posted November 29, 2003 I have not drained the tank yet but thread looks like 1/2 inch (12mm?). We also need approx 7/16 outlet for the tank/pump hose and their std size is 5/16 inch..? The 6000 (universal) series is of interest to me as there is an outlet option facing down (the new route for this hose is under the airbox) but there are also other options. Gio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_roethlisberger Posted November 29, 2003 Share Posted November 29, 2003 Good luck on the Pingel.... Guzzi uses a reverse metric fine thread on the fittings for the tanks, and when I was trying to get an adapter for the pressure-regulator side, no one could get a tap or fitting that would match up. It's completely non-standard. Surprise Surprise The Guzzi manual petcock is just fine though, and seems well-made. It also has a large inlet screen area, and huge outlet. So I think it flows a reasonable amount of fuel. al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted November 29, 2003 Share Posted November 29, 2003 Gio, And I am still anxious to know how much of the "" vapor lock "" may have been intermittent electrical failure of the petcock? Keep us posted . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_roethlisberger Posted November 29, 2003 Share Posted November 29, 2003 Maybe, but based on his thermal measurements, and his description of the scenario/environment of the "vapor lock" failure, I doubt it was much if ever. AFAIK, he reported the vapor-lock only during the typical "vapor lock" ride, park, heat-soak cycle... not intermittently... say during a ride, under top vibration conditions, which would be indicative of an intermittent electrical cut-off of the pet-cock ? al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted November 29, 2003 Share Posted November 29, 2003 Maybe it's proper to ask: was the ""vapor lock"" solved prior to the petcock failure? If 'no' then it will be interesting to see how the bike runs with a new petcock . . . Stay tuned. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted November 29, 2003 Author Share Posted November 29, 2003 Docc, Yes - the vapour-lock problem was solved prior to the petcock issue. The petcock was actually leaking whilst off the bike and it was during closer inspection that the wires came off. Al, Good point re the petcock thread. I guess it would need to be a whole new assy from Pingel or other source if not of Italian/metric manufacture. Does anyone know how the outlet from the manual version compares to the electric (I think it is a 90 degree outlet rather than 45 degree down) position wise? This could be an issue (for me) with the new hose route... Gio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callison Posted November 29, 2003 Share Posted November 29, 2003 It's working without problems on mine. Hose re-routed so it doesn't crimp itself shut. OF course, it hasn't been above 60 degrees F since I did it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_roethlisberger Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 The manual petcock is indeed 90-degree.... which I find should be easier to allow routing the supply line up higher. al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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